[Vicky.]

What is she actually famous for? I genuinely have no idea. I don't follow news about her or any of her family tbh...assumed she was just a reality tv person :S

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What is she actually famous for? I genuinely have no idea. I don't follow news about her or any of her family tbh...assumed she was just a reality tv person :S

Her family become famous because her father was OJ Simpson's lawyer and her mother was Nicole Brown Simpson's best friend and then her mother remarried Bruce Jenner the Olympian and then a sex tape between Kim and a famous rapper leaked a few months before the family got their own reality TV show and then her and the rest of her family kinda just capitalised on her sex tape and the TV show and worked really hard and now they're all multi millionaires and A-list celebs.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Her family become famous because her father was OJ Simpson's lawyer and her mother was Nicole Brown Simpson's best friend and then her mother remarried Bruce Jenner the Olympian and then a sex tape between Kim and a famous rapper leaked a few months before the family got their own reality TV show and then her and the rest of her family kinda just capitalised on her sex tape and the TV show and worked really hard and now they're all multi millionaires and A-list celebs.

...wow

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Her family become famous because her father was OJ Simpson's lawyer and her mother was Nicole Brown Simpson's best friend and then her mother remarried Bruce Jenner the Olympian and then a sex tape between Kim and a famous rapper leaked a few months before the family got their own reality TV show and then her and the rest of her family kinda just capitalised on her sex tape and the TV show and worked really hard and now they're all multi millionaires and A-list celebs.

The BIB is pushing it.

To be A-list celebs most of the world needs to know who you are, not just America and a few die hard Reality TV fans from other countries.

[Cal.]

This is a serious debate

[y.winter]

No.
Artificial superficial bimbo. I see no depth in it.

[Cal.]

Marilyn was a sex symbol. Kim is a sex symbol.
Marilyn was the most famous woman in the world at the time. Kim is the most famous woman in the world right now.
Marilyn was insanely famous for her look. Kim is insanely famous for her look.
Marilyn was a role model for the youth of her day. Kim is a role model for the youth of today.
Marilyn had an extensive career with modelling, acting and singing under her belt. Kim has an extensive career with modelling, reality TV, fashion designing etc.
Marilyn was a pop culture phenomenon. Kim is a pop culture phenomenon.

And they both could have been/can be the First Lady of the United States of America!

[Mokka]

All those things that Marilyn is... I would argue none are what Kim is. Marilyn is just on a higher plane...end of. But I am not going to argue with you about them... you are from a generation where talent means something different to you then it's actually definition.

My answer to the OP remains NO

[Firewire]

Yes she's an icon

[Pete.]

The only thing that separates Marilyn and Kim is that Kim hasn't slept with a married president

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Pete.

The only thing that separates Marilyn and Kim is that Kim hasn't slept with a married president

That'll change when Kanye wins Presidency in 2020!

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Pete.

The only thing that separates Marilyn and Kim is that Kim hasn't slept with a married president

Kim has way more class and would never.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't like the Kardashians they're just not for me, and neither is their TV Shows.

However I'd never begrudge them success as I don't know them well enough to be personally involved like that.

[Firewire]

She's definitely A-list

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is famous amid the lumpen proles

[MB.]

Or among people who don't use phrases like "lumpenprole"

[EspeonBB]

Say what you want about her but she's a smart businesswoman and knows exactly how to get media attention, there's a reason she's been relevant for years now (plus she snatched Paris :sorry: )

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Say what you want about her but she's a smart businesswoman and knows exactly how to get media attention, there's a reason she's been relevant for years now (plus she snatched Paris :sorry: )

Lol. The media exploit her. She has zero control

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lol. The media exploit her. She has zero control

The media is the main reason for her fame and she knows exactly how to exploit it

[Cal.]

80+ million Instagram followers is A List.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Cal.

80+ million Instagram followers is A List.

Hasnt she been accused multiple times of buying some of those?

[Amy Jade]

I don't like her, but I think she deserves due credit for making such a huge empire from being Paris Hilton's closet organizer and the daughter of some guy who got a Murderer found innocent.

I don't think she's anything special and the stars of KUWTK are Kris and Khloe not Kim and I disagree that she's a good role model for young girls, if she had grown from the beginnings morally and found a talent that can't be accredited to somebody else then I'd feel different but she hasn't.

[LaLaLand]

Famous sure why not? She seems like a great, savvy businesswoman.

As famous as she is for doing what she does over others? No.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I know she was criticised for years for 'being famous for being famous' but I'm interested to see if people still hold that view?

For me personally, she definitely deserves her fame. She's a marketing genius and she's worked hard for her success. She's a businesswoman first and foremost and she's capitalised on her assets and not only created an empire for herself - but also made herself one of the most famous women to ever live. She's this generation's Marilyn Monroe. She's a cultural icon.

It's just a shame that some people still think she doesn't deserve her fame and she's famous for nothing. What are your thoughts on the issue?

(Personally I think it's a Serious Debate and News worthy as it's very culturally relevant since Kim is a role model to the youth of today)

I know nothing about her but it seems her surname is in vogue these days , i have no idea why and the only thing i've gleaned about her is she has a huge fake arse

[Maru]

For me personally no, and only because most of what is she was famous for is being fabricated and pure marketing (aside from her sex tape). Her home life on her reality show is scripted and there's dozens of those shows on TV right now. She's famous for being media savvy and hanging around the right crowds, timing her appearances and photos... some fame due there I guess.

Paris Hilton was famous for being on one of the first shows of it's kind where she left her roots to go live in a small town and provide comedy. Both her and Nicole were genuinely funny (though trashy as hell). That makes for a little more of a backstory than "I like to tweet everything I do, hang out with Kanye and look nice". I don't know how I will explain Kim to my kids

But... given how lackluster our mainstream has been in the past 10-15 years comparatively speaking to other generations, it's understandable why she is noteworthy. Few acts have compared in recent years, even genuinely talented people... so I guess in that respect, she deserves her fame, but I don't necessarily have her high on my list for doing anything noteworthy... I'm more interested in why she's famous than in her actual famous.

We live in an era anyway where we follow people on Twitter and IG for really base reasons... they're not necessarily relevant, it's probably all a farce, but yet they're still interesting to us (like BB housemates )