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Remembering Kerry
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I was born into a Roman Catholic family,I moved away from a lot of the expectations and teachings of that faith but hold onto bits. I keep a very open mind on there being a higher being or an energy definitely, as you appear to too. |
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i don't mean to attack anyone for their beliefs, but I've met many devout religious people who were anything but good and kind to their fellow man. Likewise, I've met many good and kind non religious people. If there is a god that sets some sort of exam/judgement prior to opening the door, I don't honestly see being religious as the main criteria for admittance
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Remembering Kerry
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I have found some who are regular churchgoers really rude and massively unpleasant people. All pious in Church in front of the Priest, then totally intolerant and extremely ignorant once out of it. |
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I lost my mother to cancer. God created everything so he did that. Lost a sister to heart disease. He did that apparently... He created everything so he has to own that one too. I can go on...
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Brother gone.. brain tumor. Thanks God. Great job.
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Yes, and humanity (both religious and non religious) have, still now and will continue to ponder questions about reasons for cases such as this and natural disasters. What's your point?
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Ithinkiloveyoutoo | Shhiiiieet 2 yrs l8ta
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All was good until Eve and Adam was tempted and released everything that god did not want us to suffer with. There are passages that say disease is from the devil. I think that's why when Pastors pray for people with disease they say the DEVIL IS A LIAR. You can blame god for your family dying but were they people of faith, did they even attempt to pray more than once persistently? God is not your puppet you can't ignore his rules most of the times and expect things to always go well that one time. ![]() Having said that, I'm sorry to hear about your family.
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this debate is getting very heated - I suggest the platform ends here.
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So when you go to hell you burn in an eternal fire?You feel pain for eternity?
How is it possible when your soul is no longer connected to your brain or your nerves basically your body?Pain is a physical reaction,How would one feel pain(a physical reaction) without physically existing? |
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I don't personally believe in such a thing as a soul but the idea is that it transcends the physical restraints of the body.Without the mechanisms of the body then pain does not exist as it is a physical reaction created by the body to warn us to stop doing whatever it is we're doing that is harming us.Does a soul have pain receptors,a brain or nerves just like a physical body?
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I'm a firm believer in god and would go as far as to say that the conscience is maybe the guiding light that we should all listen to, too many ignore theirs and sadly a growing number don't appear to have one at all.
I also believe free will is a powerful tool, and can be ulilised to great effect however as many don't have a clue how to use it can find themselves leading a life that driven by negativity and ill will, radiating this attracts the same back. What I am trying to say is I feel god gave us all a platform, yet it's at best misunderstood.
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There is no God.
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I remember as a child kneeling at the foot of my bed once asking God a question. I never got a response. I wasn't asking for material things for Christmas or to get the math teacher at school that i didn't like sacked. I simply asked him that as the creator of everything why did he create cancer? He never got back to me.
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It sounds like you have had a pretty rough go of it </3I think you are missing something within this conversation with Marsh. Marsh hasn't claimed to be a believer or to hold to one type of religious belief over another... he is just arguing for CeCe's right to her own belief. So asking him about how he justifies different religious doctrines that stem from the Bible and the Christian religious is a mute point...because he isn't saying he follows the bible or is a Christian himself. Also, different religions have different origin stories and different gods...so you can't group all religion into one heading on many of your arguments. That being said... I am not a believer myself... and I understand where you are coming from. There is no God to blame for your losses... imo... it is just the nature of life itself, and the type of world we, as in our current society of people, have created to live in. Some of it is down to no rhyme or reason...some is due to our environment and circumstance. It sucks that so many tragic circumstances have hit you and your loved ones. No one deserved or earned it though...it just happens.
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.I wasn't just raised without religion. I didn't just wake up in my happy bed one morning and decide "nah, not for me". I felt its absence so strongly at an early age that it was never even a remote possibility to consider. I looked at my experiences, and I looked at the world, and it was crystal clear. The world is chaos, it has no intrinsic meaning, and it is pain. The only real goodness in the world is what people have created for ourselves: Art, music, sport and other recreation. Emotional connections - desperately clinging to other humans (or animals) as we hurtle through infinity on a speck of dust. My own grandmother was fit and healthy, for a 74 year old. She was walking into town... no need to cross any major roads. But she saw the minister of her church across the road and wanted to chat to him about church stuff, so she crossed. She was hit by a car doing 60mph, and hit her head on the road. She seemed OK in hospital... but then she slowly started to lose her mind, with a brain injury. She regressed to a toddler like state like ****ing Benjamin Button over the course of 2 months, being cared for by my mother, and then she died a screaming, terrified death in our house while I sat on my bed in the next room. My mother pretty much checked out of parenting that night and never returned. I was 8. By the time I was 15 she was a full blown alcoholic and had flushed her career down the pan. By the time I was 30 her liver had melted, her face had started to rot off in her hospital bed, and I was sat at her funeral thinking "She died over 20 years ago anyway". Crossed the road to talk to her minister. I always thought it was ironic. Then I met my wife... and she told me a story about how her own dear great-grandmother was living comfotably in her twilight years. Happy, content, just liked to make sure she got out on Sunday to attend church. Where she slipped on a stone step and bashed HER head in. And died a slow moaning death in hospital. Thanks again, God! Good going, Jesus ol' pal! Absolute screamer! Hmmm. Now I have to wonder... does God simply not exist, or is he just a cruel bastard with the darkest sense of humor imaginable? Is he a full blown psychopath? Nah. The only logical answer is that he does not exist. When you get older and start to add in things like a greater understanding of the scale of the universe, logic, reasoning, multiple varied religions based purely on geography, a quick look at the political origins of organised religion... et al... it only becomes even more obvious. People have the right to believe whatever they want to believe, that much is true. That doesn't mean that the rest of us have to smile and nod and pretend that any of it is ****ing vaguely plausible. It bugs the **** out of me. I also find it strange that the "right to believe what you believe" only seems to extend to the religious and not the non-religious. The non-religious, apparently, have to pretend to believe that it's all valid and possible even if we don't. Last edited by user104658; 17-09-2016 at 10:11 AM. |
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Your partner and children are all you need to believe in and they you. x
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You don't have to believe in god to be good or have a force for good just like you don't have to believe to have a conscience. There are bad, evil people who follow faith. Probably as many as don't.
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Did I say you did?...
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I went to a church school, it had strong connections with the local church but in my early twenties I just realised I didn't believe in any of it and that was that. It was actually a relief to admit it to myself and I'm comfortable with it.
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