[arista]

Yes
the truth

CNN HD Live said today
the Polls all say its very close now.

[Withano]

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.

hardly, they give a fairly accurate impression of public opinion, and what the trend of opinion is over time. Very relevant I would say.

The margin of error in polls is such that one really has no idea who will win this election. Its too close to call, at least at this point. Literally either could win it, so pretending otherwise could just lead to disappointment down the line.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

hardly, they give a fairly accurate impression of public opinion, and what the trend of opinion is over time. Very relevant I would say.

The margin of error in polls is such that one really has no idea who will win this election. Its too close to call, at least at this point. Literally either could win it, so pretending otherwise could just lead to disappointment down the line.

But public opinion isnt how the winner will be decided, it isn't the most votes win. Theres an entirely different method in place so na, irrelevant.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

But public opinion isnt how the winner will be decided, it isn't the most votes win. Theres an entirely different method in place so na, irrelevant.

and its the same in the UK, it doesn't stop polls being incredibley accurately recently. As I was also saying, trends are also very important

[Liberty4eva]

Because Trump would be way more friendly to an independent UK than Hillary, it makes logical sense for the British to support Trump. There are really only a handful of people here that are immune to this social justice warrior crap.

Anyways, Trump should win the debate.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and its the same in the UK, it doesn't stop polls being incredibley accurately recently. As I was also saying, trends are also very important

Ukip got 12.6% of the vote and 1 in 650 seats. They done similarly well in polls. Thats how incredibly inaccurate polls are. So na, irrelevant.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Withano

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.

The official polls they use are accurate. They predicted Obama's win in both 2008 and 2012 and in 2012 Obama actually won by a bigger margin than the polls were predicting even though many didnt believe the polls and thought Romney was much closer.

Trump is running rings around the media at the moment. He cant be pinned down on policy, he doesnt answer questions, he yet not one of the supposedly skilled media cann pin him down on anything. He a complete joke and they are an even bigger joke. He changes his mind on a daily basis but it looks like he understands TV better than most of the media and thus not much is sticking at the moment

The debate is gonna be essential viewing. It will be nothing like they have had before and I dont think the winner will be decided at that point. Trump will call HRC 'lying Hillary' and 'corrupt Hillary' over and over again and it might stick

[bots]

here are recent changes :



Here is the current map:




Its a trend favouring Trump, and by no means an assured victory for Hillary.

The question is, what has Trump done to improve his rating? Nothing. Some things just happen.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

here are recent changes :



Here is the current map:




Its a trend favouring Trump, and by no means an assured victory for Hillary.

The question is, what has Trump done to improve his rating? Nothing. Some things just happen.

So to summarise, popularity polls are irrelevant. And I dont know where you found that map but Clinton would win even if Trump took all of those 'toss up' areas. I dont think its an assured thing yet, you should stay away from that website.

[Tom4784]

I imagine the debates will be the death of Trump's campaign, his policies are senseless and vague and the debates should put that in plain sight. I imagine he'll resort to his playground insults before long, As long as Hillary doesn't get drawn into it and stands her ground then she should be able to come out on top easily.

I still refuse to believe that people outside of his bigoted fandom will actually vote for him.

[Maru]

Just 2 days now...

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[Maru]

Yep. Just came in from working on a fence with hubby. Now going to turn on the TV...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yep. Just came in from working on a fence with hubby. Now going to turn on the TV...

To keep the Mexicans out?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

To keep the Mexicans out?

Well my neighbors are Mexican and the kids do like to climb over every once in a while to retrieve basketballs. But, it has more to do with the fact the pre-existing fence was a POS and falling over from two floods.

This one is going to be soooo much taller though... according to husband He's putting in a rotboard


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[Maru]

ABC had a trump and hillary dance off on dancing with the stars :P

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[Maru]

So I wonder if Trump is going to come out all the sudden with super specific plans... that's usually what happens at most debates?

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[GiRTh]

Here we go.

[arista]

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[Marsh.]

Trump needs to go blow his nose. If he sniffs one more damn time.