[Jack.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Perhaps a "believer" can explain to the forum what a "ghost" is and how it operates etc?

flesh it out a little so to speak

Well the "ghost" is seen was just like most "ghosts" look like, I was sat in the bath and i could see a small boy spirt stood in the doorway of one of the room, So i **** myself got out of the bath and ran downstairs but no one believed me.

[Liam-]

No but I have heard one, on many occasions, I'm a believer so I'm very open to the idea of seeing one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In one corner we have peer reviewed scientific knowledge built up over the lifespan of modern science. physics, biology, chemistry etc


in the other corner we have

Spoiler:

ding ding, round one

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is a very good short synopsis on this subject

http://www.livescience.com/26697-are-ghosts-real.html

[Marsh.]

Yeah, science, which holds the answer to anything and everything in 2016.

Oh wait....

They don't even know everything there is to know about the human body yet, let alone the universe.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, science, which holds the answer to anything and everything in 2016.

Oh wait....

They don't even know everything there is to know about the human body yet, let alone the universe.

maybe you could answer my question earlier marsh about what a ghost actually is and how it operates?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

maybe you could answer my question earlier marsh about what a ghost actually is and how it operates?

I haven't claimed to have ever seen one or know what one would be so it's pretty useless asking me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I haven't claimed to have ever seen one or know what one would be so it's pretty useless asking me.

Maybe liam will say as he heard one?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, science, which holds the answer to anything and everything in 2016.

Oh wait....

They don't even know everything there is to know about the human body yet, let alone the universe.

Science is constantly developing as we are, as is our understanding of things. There's aspects within science now that historically we would have had no concept of as human beings, who's to say the same won't be true of the future? Unless you think we're the ultimate intelligent evolved species that is possible within the universe? There's a lot that our brains can't even begin to comprehend so nothing can be dismissed outright.
I don't personally believe in ghosts, and noone can prove that they exist, but that still doesn't mean they don't.

[Black Dagger]

Bore off LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Bore off LT.

oh dear did i upset your myopic view on life

soz hon

xx

[Tom4784]

LT. perhaps instead of demanding proof for people's opinions, you should provide some evidence for your own opinion that you believe to be fact.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Jack.

Well the "ghost" is seen was just like most "ghosts" look like, I was sat in the bath and i could see a small boy spirt stood in the doorway of one of the room, So i **** myself got out of the bath and ran downstairs but no one believed me.

I hope you wiped up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

LT. perhaps instead of demanding proof for people's opinions, you should provide some evidence for your own opinion that you believe to be fact.

perhaps some one could say what a ghost is and how it works?

because I am pretty sure that no one has the slightest clue apart from some horror film ideas or from reading harry potter/other similar books



or your short answer would be onus probandi

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

perhaps some one could say what a ghost is and how it works?

because I am pretty sure that no one has the slightest clue apart from some horror film ideas or from reading harry potter/other similar books



or your short answer would be onus probandi

And who provided the first ideas for ghosts to be put into books like Harry Potter and horror films?

The real ghosts you lemon.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And who provided the first ideas for ghosts to be put into books like Harry Potter and horror films?

The real ghosts you lemon.

That's the SPIRIT Marsh.

[bots]

LT does make a valid point. What is a ghost. Is it something barely visible out the corner of ones eye, is it something fully formed that could be mistaken for a living being, is it an invisible voice, a whisper in the wind, some creaking of some wooden eaves in the roof. To have seen/heard a ghost, you would need to be able to verify it was a ghost and not something else, and part of that verification requires what a ghost is to be defined.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

LT does make a valid point. What is a ghost. Is it something barely visible out the corner of ones eye, is it something fully formed that could be mistaken for a living being, is it an invisible voice, a whisper in the wind, some creaking of some wooden eaves in the roof. To have seen/heard a ghost, you would need to be able to verify it was a ghost and not something else, and part of that verification requires what a ghost is to be defined.

I have been trying, thankyou

[Josy]

Seen a ghost eating toast half way up the lamp post

[rusticgal]

My brother claimed to have seen and described a vision of an elderly lady in an old house he bought in Devon. His description matched the former resident who passed away in the house before he bought it. His description of her was exactly as her son described and even down to the clothing she wore. Previously sounds of a ball bouncing on floorboards were heard on several occasions despite the house being fully carpeted.
Years later I stayed at my girlfriends house and slept downstairs with two other girlfriends after a girls night in. Two of us were awoken by a similar sound of a bouncing ball on hard flooring. The next day I asked her if her house was haunted and she told me they believed it was with several occurrences of weird activity in her young sons room. A few years later she put the house on the market...a photo taken of the house by the estate agent showed a young child face clearly visible at her bedroom window...

So yes...I believe in them.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

My brother claimed to have seen and described a vision of an elderly lady in an old house he bought in Devon. His description matched the former resident who passed away in the house before he bought it. His description of her was exactly as her son described and even down to the clothing she wore. Previously sounds of a ball bouncing on floorboards were heard on several occasions despite the house being fully carpeted.
Years later I stayed at my girlfriends house and slept downstairs with two other girlfriends after a girls night in. Two of us were awoken by a similar sound of a bouncing ball on hard flooring. The next day I asked her if her house was haunted and she told me they believed it was with several occurrences of weird activity in her young sons room. A few years later she put the house on the market...a photo taken of the house by the estate agent showed a young child face clearly visible at her bedroom window...

So yes...I believe in them.

ooo how spooky Rusticgal because I have a brother/Devon/old lady/balls involved story...it's quite extensive in quite a lot of things happening so I won't say it all but we had rented an old house in Devon with my brother and he and his partner were in the older part of the house...anyway there was a snooker table...(enter the balls bit..)...and one night he woke up and heard the snooker balls clicking together as if someone was playing...so he went to have a look...(he's very much a non believer in ghosts and all things spooky..)...and while he was in the snooker room...(there was a shower room right next to that room..)...the shower was running and none of us had used that shower...anyway a few other things and his partner claimed to have actually seen an old lady as well..../an old lady and a snooker playing ghost who showered in the middle of the night...

[Amy Jade]

I do and I believe I saw a ghost while camping at Ewloe Castle in Wepre Woods.

Basically me and a few friends asked to stay in one of their caravans which was parked on the drive. We snuck off with a few others and camped in the castle grounds. It was pitch black when we arrived but we set up 2 tents, one for the girls and one for the boys.

I dont know what time it was but my friend woke me and the other girls up to say she could hear somebody walking around outside, we freaked out and rang the boys but they never answered so we decided to get out the tent and by a grate in the ground there was somebody standing looking away from us, it looked like a woman with her hair in a bun, we literally darted back into the tent and huddled together and sat there until we heard the boys talking - none of them claimed to have left the tent and the person had a long skirt on and after looking online we found out about a woman called Nora having an illegitimate baby and throwing it from a spire in the castle before drowning herself.

I believe we saw her ghost, even my mum has said we were imagining it because we were scaring each other and stuff but me and the other girl (Rachel) still to this day both maintain we saw that woman.

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I do and I believe I saw a ghost while camping at Ewloe Castle in Wepre Woods.

Basically me and a few friends asked to stay in one of their caravans which was parked on the drive. We snuck off with a few others and camped in the castle grounds. It was pitch black when we arrived but we set up 2 tents, one for the girls and one for the boys.

I dont know what time it was but my friend woke me and the other girls up to say she could hear somebody walking around outside, we freaked out and rang the boys but they never answered so we decided to get out the tent and by a grate in the ground there was somebody standing looking away from us, it looked like a woman with her hair in a bun, we literally darted back into the tent and huddled together and sat there until we heard the boys talking - none of them claimed to have left the tent and the person had a long skirt on and after looking online we found out about a woman called Nora having an illegitimate baby and throwing it from a spire in the castle before drowning herself.

I believe we saw her ghost, even my mum has said we were imagining it because we were scaring each other and stuff but me and the other girl (Rachel) still to this day both maintain we saw that woman.

Ewloe/Wepre Woods isn't too far from me and it's NOTORIOUS for being haunted by Nora the Nun, she's been seen so many times by people over the years. Every sighting of her has been by the waterfall.

Here: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nort...ostly-10962259

[Amy Jade]

Nobody believed us even the boys but yeah, we obviously have no proof but I saw somebody up there and who is going to be wandering around the woods in the pitch black?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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