[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TM isn't even a president, let alone a Despot. You can't look at the actions of the prime minister and assume the mindset of even her party, let alone the entire government.

she da boss lady TS. She could give a flying fcuk what he is like as long as we get the trade deals and that twat Bercow needs to start thinking beyond getting "likes" on facebook.

[Tom4784]

How dare anyone take issue with Trump! We need to deal with other dictators and abusers of power before we can even think negatively about Trump never mind speak out!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How dare anyone take issue with Trump! We need to deal with other dictators and abusers of power before we can even think negatively about Trump never mind speak out!

correct, set priorities and not just jump on a bandwaggon because lady gaga says so

[DemolitionRed]

What some people don't get is, World leaders are normaly only invited to speak in the Houses of Parliament once they have achieved something the British people could benefit from. There are many U.S. presidents who haven't been invited to speak through their entire time in office. Just because we are not inviting him after only a few weeks in office, doesn't mean he will never be invited to speak.

What would he speak about. What has he achieved thus far?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What some people don't get is, World leaders are normaly only invited to speak in the Houses of Parliament once they have achieved something the British people could benefit from. There are many U.S. presidents who haven't been invited to speak through their entire time in office. Just because we are not inviting him after only a few weeks in office, doesn't mean he will never be invited to speak.

What would he speak about. What has he achieved thus far?

precisely and frankly as he is not a politician per se he could give a rats arse I am sure so its just bercow making a plonker of himself...again

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

precisely and frankly as he is not a politician per se he could give a rats arse I am sure so its just bercow making a plonker of himself...again

As he is a raging narcissist he will be upset if he doesn't get to do something that was offered to Obama.

However, as a sociopathic liar he will probably just claim that he got to do it "in secret" anyway, and that he "made all the best speeches".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As he is a raging narcissist he will be upset if he doesn't get to do something that was offered to Obama.

However, as a sociopathic liar he will probably just claim that he got to do it "in secret" anyway, and that he "made all the best speeches".

his 2 best features

[Livia]

Maybe he could speak about the fact he's willing to do a quick trade deal after Brexit, seeing as the USA is our largest non-European export market. And of course, Obama told us we would go to the back of the queue. Let's start with that.

[DemolitionRed]

Leaders of the world are not invited to speak about trade deals they haven't yet made. Its not about them selling themselves or atempting to do business with us! They speak about particular achievements they have made that benefit their country. They pass on popular political ideas and that's why its not just offered to any leader.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Leaders of the world are not invited to speak about trade deals they haven't yet made. Its not about them selling themselves or atempting to do business with us! They speak about particular achievements they have made that benefit their country. They pass on popular political ideas and that's why its not just offered to any leader.

Oh no... trade deals are done over tea and scones and a chat in parliament surely?

[smudgie]

I think he has jumped the gun a bit here...no invite to speak to parliament has yet been issued, let alone been confirmed or declined.
Silly Big John.

[MTVN]

May has no power to sack the Speaker but I don't think its the sort of thing his critics should worry about - Bercow making a gesture like this probably means he intends to stand down relatively soon anyway and just wants to make a big point before he does so

[DemolitionRed]

Ok here's what Bercow actually said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7x7LIlMIcw

and here is the fallout of what he said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMBRTj7frVg&t=213s
pay particular attention to them around the 2:24 mark. The "small man" crap was pathetic, and so was the reference to his wife.

To be honest, having now watched the top video, I don't quite get what all the fuss is. He didn't say he'd ban Trump, he said that in his opinion he'd be strongly against it.

[Livia]

I think most people saw this yesterday.

[Kizzy]

The use of language around people who make decisions over the heads of those who assume supreme authority over everything and everyone is interesting. They are increasingly referred to as small, ridiculous, 'so called' and other derogatory references for simply doing their job, making a judgement ( if a judge) or expressing a professional opinion.
What is all that about?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The use of language around people who make decisions over the heads of those who assume supreme authority over everything and everyone is interesting. They are increasingly referred to as small, ridiculous, 'so called' and other derogatory references for simply doing their job, making a judgement ( if a judge) or expressing a professional opinion.
What is all that about?

I call it the Brexit-Trump-Circlejerk-Effect. Everyone feels so very right now, and how dare anyone do their job if it doesn't represent TheWillOfThePeople™

[Cherie]

Bercow under pressure tonight as a video surfaces of him backing remain, May might not be able to sack him but she can make life uncomfortable or even untenable for him

[Kizzy]

Is the speaker not allowed a vote, or a view?
Would it be seen as more acceptable if he'd been filmed suggesting he voted brexit?....Why?

He is just another of a growing number of people who have gone against what the govt want and so are being lambasted in the media.
There was no issue with his voting record before his trump comments.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the problem is that the speaker is supposed command cross party confidence.He can't be sharing his political views.He has to be impartial.He certainly should'nt be airing his position on Brexit when he is undoubtedly going to have to chair many debates on the EU if he keeps his job.How can he chair debates on an issue where his impartiality is now compromised.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think the problem is that the speaker is supposed command cross party confidence.He can't be sharing his political views.He has to be impartial.He certainly should'nt be airing his position on Brexit when he is undoubtedly going to have to chair many debates on the EU if he keeps his job.How can he chair debates on an issue where his impartiality is now compromised.

What debates, there is no in/out debate is there?

Again what does/did his opinion on brexit have to do with trump?
This is just the govt trying to whip up public discontent in him, it's obvious.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What debates, there is no in/out debate is there?

Again what does/did his opinion on brexit have to do with trump?
This is just the govt trying to whip up public discontent in him, it's obvious.

His opinion on Brexit has nothing to do with Trump?
They're two separate issues.He's breached his impartiality twice now.Once on Trump and once on Brexit

[Cherie]

People said May couldn't sack him, there is more than one way to skin a cat

[arista]

"He has to be impartial."


Yes he failed that
in Parliament , last week.

[DemolitionRed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speake...United_Kingdom)

Thereafter, the Speaker requests "in the name and on behalf of the Commons of the United Kingdom, to lay claim, by humble petition to Her Majesty, to all their ancient and undoubted rights and privileges, especially to freedom of speech in debate,

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speake...United_Kingdom)

Thereafter, the Speaker requests "in the name and on behalf of the Commons of the United Kingdom, to lay claim, by humble petition to Her Majesty, to all their ancient and undoubted rights and privileges, especially to freedom of speech in debate,

Ah right... so this impartiality thing is bollox? Thought as much, so he has the same rights as everyone else as would any speaker.
He has just gone against May et al and so must be punished?

Sounds like the way it goes in the UK atm.