[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, if you're allowed to talk to passengers in the car while driving then surely hands free is ok too

Yeah, I see it as no different from talking to passengers or even listening to music.

[Cherie]

Horrific, given it wasn't him who usually dropped the child off, it's a shame the mother didn't text him to see how he got on, or the crèche ring to see why she wasn't in, its such a rare thing but a simple policy like the crèche ringing to check could have prevented the tragedy, poor man he will never get over this

[Alf]

Tragic.

[arista]

this is Tragic

[Wizard.]

Horrible but honestly what a stupid thing to forget I mean I forget my umbrella on the bus but a baby come on he needs to get his priorities straight.

[Deirdre]

I'm barely awake in the mornings, extremely forgetful. So I can see how something so tragic could happen, especially if he wasn't used to dropping her off.
I remember sometimes in school we'd have half days, and I'd have to remind my parents in the morning to pick me up at 12.30 instead of 2.30. Most times they'd forget because they'd be so used to the normal routine and I'd be waiting outside the school for 2 hours.
This reminds me of Manchester By the Sea, it's something that this Dad will never recover from.

[Denver]

How did nobody else notice?

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

How did nobody else notice?

Yeah like after an hour surely the nursery would ring and ask why said baby wasn't there? It's common courtesy

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Yeah like after an hour surely the nursery would ring and ask why said baby wasn't there? It's common courtesy

Or someone walking by?

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Or someone walking by?

Maybe it was asleep or dead by then.

[UserSince2005]

Horrific,

Definitely negligence, intentional or not, and he should be punished according.

[Toy Soldier]

It happens, tragically, not all that uncommonly and is a well known psychological phenomenon. Basically it does involve having a heavily ingrained autopilot routine and then deviating from that routine (like being supposed to drop someone off) and then usually a distraction of some kind... People then just default to their usual routine.

It actually happens to me the other way around quite a lot. Youngest has only recently started doing two full days at nursery, she used to only do afternoons, so I'm used to her being around in the morning. A couple of times I've had a couple of seconds of panic when it's really quiet and I can't find her before I remember she's out. And once I was doing the garden and left the front door lying open (clearly knew she was at nursery when I actually left it open), went upstairs for a while, came backs down and saw the door lying open and totally crapped myself for a minute thinking she would be out on the road .

The brain works in strange ways. It's more based on routines and patterns than people realise... You spend more than half of your life not actually thinking about what you're doing at any one time.

[Redway]

Forgot to drop her at a crèche?


It's tragic whatever the circumstances

[smudgie]

Too tragic for words.

[jaxie]

It's absolutely horrible. A terrible way to die. How do you forget a baby? Surely you would see her when you got out of the car, when you locked it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's absolutely horrible. A terrible way to die. How do you forget a baby? Surely you would see her when you got out of the car, when you locked it?

He clearly didnt though, alot of times I'm almost to the door of work before I hit the lock button on my key

[Kizzy]

There was a case like this a couple of years ago, then it turned out the guy did it on purpose though

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was a case like this a couple of years ago, then it turned out the guy did it on purpose though

Jesus :/

[James]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are cases like this every year where people leave their children in the car. I think if you have a normal morning routine - like driving straight to work you go on auto pilot especially if the baby was quiet and sleeping.

Absolutely heartbreaking, the guy will never get over it but just awful for the baby.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, those were my thoughts as well. I've often drove the wrong way on my days off from working because my body and mind are so used to going a particular direction

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It happens, tragically, not all that uncommonly and is a well known psychological phenomenon. Basically it does involve having a heavily ingrained autopilot routine and then deviating from that routine (like being supposed to drop someone off) and then usually a distraction of some kind... People then just default to their usual routine.

It actually happens to me the other way around quite a lot. Youngest has only recently started doing two full days at nursery, she used to only do afternoons, so I'm used to her being around in the morning. A couple of times I've had a couple of seconds of panic when it's really quiet and I can't find her before I remember she's out. And once I was doing the garden and left the front door lying open (clearly knew she was at nursery when I actually left it open), went upstairs for a while, came backs down and saw the door lying open and totally crapped myself for a minute thinking she would be out on the road .

The brain works in strange ways. It's more based on routines and patterns than people realise... You spend more than half of your life not actually thinking about what you're doing at any one time.

Yeah, your mind gets into patterns of doing things if you repeat them over-and-over. I've noticed this a bit with me recently.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jesus :/

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...in+ross+harris

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7458216.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...in+ross+harris

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7458216.html

God thats horrific.

[Kizzy]

I know

[DemolitionRed]

What a tragic story. This is so awful for both the baby and the dad.

I left my dog down at the horse yard one day and didn't remember I'd left him until I got a phone call from the stables saying, "the last we saw of your dog was him legging it up the road behind your car. Did he catch up with you?"

By the time I found him, he had crossed a busy dual carriageway and run along a very busy highway. Fortunately he was okay but I never worked out why I forgot him that day. I was obviously distracted in some way.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know how anyone could even go on after that happening, it's horrific enough to have to deal with losing a child but knowing it was your fault on top of it would be too much

Well it's not really something I would like to find out, but in all honesty stuff like that is hard to predict as people handle tragic moments in different ways, some carry the grief for the rest of their lives, and others do decide what I think you was implying and just can't take it anymore and end it because they can't cope with losing the child.

Hopefully this guy will be able to go on.

[Amy Jade]

I have mixed feelings really, I understand it was a mistake and the guy will be devestated it's unimagineable. Then again you can't blame anyone but him - it was his duty of care to make sure the baby got to the care givers.

I feel it's cruel to attack him like I am sure other places will but imo he'll feel incredibly bad already no need to add to his suffering. Let the court decide idk