[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

It isnt culture at all. As if its the culture of white right wingers to run down innocent Muslims. Its individual mindsets. Always has been, always will be. And thats why its dangerous to lump everyone as one single group.
This guy is not reflective of white culture, of right wing culture, of male culture etc etc. In the same way an Islamic extremist is not reflective of Islamic culture. I mean jheeze, how many more incidents before people learn.

pc whitewash ...there is an inherent problem within islam that has seen 10,000s becoming radicalised across the world....to say its not all muslims is stating the bleeding the obvious we all know that, but to go that liberal step further and say its not a problem within islam is complete and utter deluded dangerous nonsense.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

pc whitewash ...there is an inherent problem within islam that has seen 10,000s becoming radicalised across the world....to say its not all muslims is stating the bleeding the obvious we all know that, but to go that liberal step further and say its not a problem within islam is complete and utter deluded dangerous nonsense.

My point was that terrorism is as much of a problem within Islam as terrorism is a problem within right wingedness in the West.
Should we lump everybody from both groups in to one because of a few select people? No.
Is that political correctness? No, its just correctness.
Do I have a solution short of attemptig to ban right wing media and ISIS spouting hatred? unfortunately, no. Do you?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

It isnt culture at all. As if its the culture of white right wingers to run down innocent Muslims. Its individual mindsets. Always has been, always will be. And thats why its dangerous to lump everyone as one single group.
This guy is not reflective of white culture, of right wing culture, of male culture etc etc. In the same way an Islamic extremist is not reflective of Islamic culture. I mean jheeze, how many more incidents before people learn.

You'd think it would be a simple enough thing to grasp.

[King Gizzard]

I'm not her biggest fan when it comes to what she says away from the HO franchise but she's definitely got a point here.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...wlings-radica/

What a load of bu****it. I'd say it has far more to do with them reacting to Muslim extremism. Morons trying to fight fire with fire.

Trying to ignore the obvious to try to make a cheap political point is weak and more in keeping with idiots such as Ms Allen. Mistakenly I thought Rowling was better than that.

what a vile pig
to even suggest such a thing is horrific
farage has never said a damned thing about condoning violence whatsoever
this is the very worst kind fo slander and he should take legal action
its as stupid him saying harry potter books are responsible for any crime in teenagers
no doubt this luvvie wouldnt dare accuse fellow novelists, or screenwriters or film directors of causing murder with their endless violence films
vile vile dangerous egotistic overrated hypocrite

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...wlings-radica/

What a load of bu****it. I'd say it has far more to do with them reacting to Muslim extremism.

Erm.... she said nothing of the sort.

Yes, reacting to Muslim extremism, with extremism of their own. She wasn't saying he was to blame for it, she was calling him out for not spouting off about it like he does when it's ethnic minorities or "foreigners" doing it. That's quite bloody obvious what her point was.

[Northern Monkey]

So this has been called a 'revenge attack'.So the question is would this guy have run those people outside the mosque over if there was no islamic extremism?I don't know.I don't know what goes on in the head of someone like that.However if the answer is no then surely the islamic extremists themselves played a huge role in indoctrinating this guy.
I've never heard farage opening the floodgates for any 'revenge attacks' and to be honest anyone who would take advice from Katie Hopkins is not all there to begin with.Not that i know the rubbish she spouts.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

However if the answer is no then surely the islamic extremists themselves played a huge role in indoctrinating this guy.

How does that work?

Say you murdered my mother, and I murdered you in revenge.

Are you to blame for me becoming a murderer or are we both guilty of the same crime?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How does that work?

Say you murdered my mother, and I murdered you in revenge.

Are you to blame for me becoming a murderer or are we both guilty of the same crime?

I'm not saying this guy isn't guilty.Of course he is.No normal person would even contemplate something like that but it seems as though he was reacting to previous attacks in his own warped way.It's been described as a 'revenge attack'.Hate breeds more hate.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I'm not saying this guy isn't guilty.Of course he is.No normal person would even contemplate something like that but it seems as though he was reacting to previous attacks in his own warped way.It's been described as a 'revenge attack'.Hate breeds more hate.

I agree with that.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I'm not saying this guy isn't guilty.Of course he is.No normal person would even contemplate something like that but it seems as though he was reacting to previous attacks in his own warped way.It's been described as a 'revenge attack'.Hate breeds more hate.

I despise the term 'revenge attack' it infers the people at the mosque did something wrong and it absolves the terrorist of the terrorist tag.

The media need to know when a duck is a duck and call this man what he is, a terrorist.

[the truth]

ir rowling wants to somehow hold farage partly responsible for the terrorist attack by this mad man from weston super mare/Cardifff..Then if we are to hold people by the same standard, she is equally guilty of shared responsibility for the radical islamic attacks by way of her deluded appeasement? shes nuts

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

ir rowling wants to somehow hold farage partly responsible for the terrorist attack by this mad man from weston super mare/Cardifff..Then if we are to hold people by the same standard, she is equally guilty of shared responsibility for the radical islamic attacks by way of her deluded appeasement? shes nuts

Do you hold ISIS at least partially responsible for the Islamic extremists that become this way after listening to them spread irrational and inaccurate hatred towards a specific group of people.

If so then she has a point, if not then ur weird, obviously ISIS are partially responsible for islamic extremism.

You find any idiot and have them listen to someone they respect talk about a group of people that they hate - you got yourself a potential terrorist - you collect several of these idiots, a small proportion will likely act on the hatred theyve learned.

Is Farage directly partially responsible? Idk, maybe, I dunno who or what the terrorist admires
Is some sort of right wing organisation / person partially responsible? Undoubtedly yes, in the exact same way Isis is partially responsible for several terrorist attacks.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Do you hold ISIS at least partially responsible for the Islamic extremists that become this way after listening to them spread irrational and inaccurate hatred towards a specific group of people.

If so then she has a point, if not then ur weird, obviously ISIS are partially responsible for islamic extremism.

You find any idiot and have them listen to someone they respect talk about a group of people that they hate - you got yourself a potential terrorist - you collect several of these idiots, a small proportion will likely act on the hatred theyve learned.

Is Farage directly partially responsible? Idk, maybe, I dunno who or what the terrorist admires
Is some sort of right wing organisation / person partially responsible? Undoubtedly yes, in the exact same way Isis is partially responsible for several terrorist attacks.

Possibly the most absurd post I have ever read
Honeslty i am embarassed for you
farage is reponsible for terrorism in the same way as ISIS? did you really mean to write that?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Do you hold ISIS at least partially responsible for the Islamic extremists that become this way after listening to them spread irrational and inaccurate hatred towards a specific group of people.

If so then she has a point, if not then ur weird, obviously ISIS are partially responsible for islamic extremism.

You find any idiot and have them listen to someone they respect talk about a group of people that they hate - you got yourself a potential terrorist - you collect several of these idiots, a small proportion will likely act on the hatred theyve learned.

Is Farage directly partially responsible? Idk, maybe, I dunno who or what the terrorist admires
Is some sort of right wing organisation / person partially responsible? Undoubtedly yes, in the exact same way Isis is partially responsible for several terrorist attacks.

I agree with the truth - it is a ridiculous comparison. Farage is a polititian not a terrorist.

ISIS on the other hand are cold blooded murderers who decapitate people and brainwash other aggressive young males and children into becoming suicide bombers. They are hardly partially responsible for Islamic extremism - they are totally responsible. Sick and twisted minds that brainwash and create other sick and twisted minds.

How many people has Farage killed- directly or indirectly. How about ISIS? The whole world can answer that one.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

Possibly the most absurd post I have ever read
Honeslty i am embarassed for you
farage is reponsible for terrorism in the same way as ISIS? did you really mean to write that?

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I agree with the truth - it is a ridiculous comparison. Farage is a polititian not a terrorist.

ISIS on the other hand are cold blooded murderers who decapitate people and brainwash other aggressive young males and children into becoming suicide bombers. They are hardly partially responsible for Islamic extremism - they are totally responsible. Sick and twisted minds that brainwash and create other sick and twisted minds.

How many people has Farage killed- directly or indirectly. How about ISIS? The whole world can answer that one.

If isis is partially responsible for islamic terrorism, what is partially responsible for right wing terrorism? I dont know if the terrorist supports Farage, so i cant make that claim, and i never have. But some sort of right wing person, or organisation - is - partially responsible. This guy wasnt born with a desire to kill muslims, just like no Islamic extremist was born with the desire to murder the innocent - the hatred that surrounds them made him that way, those that create that hatred are partially responsible to some extent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

If isis is partially responsible for islamic terrorism, what is partially responsible for right wing terrorism? I dont know if the terrorist supports Farage, so i cant make that claim, and i never have. But some sort of right wing person, or organisation - is - partially responsible. This guy wasnt born with a desire to kill muslims, the hatred that surrounded him made him that way.

Maybe he was a Corbyn fan and actually wanted to get Jews but it was dark?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

If isis is partially responsible for islamic terrorism, what is partially responsible for right wing terrorism? I dont know if the terrorist supports Farage, so i cant make that claim, and i never have. But some sort of right wing person, or organisation - is - partially responsible. This guy wasnt born with a desire to kill muslims, just like no Islamic extremist was born with the desire to murder the innocent - the hatred that surrounds them made him that way, those that create that hatred are partially responsible to some extent.

And who created the hatred?Islamic terrorists attacking our country.If the media is correct that this was a revenge attack

[Kizzy]

Where's bold Niamh when you need her?...

[the truth]

she should stick to fairytales