[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Can Jester Joe turn it around?

I doubt it, his fans wont be so desperate as to join together with another hm fans to block vote and sway the proper will of the bb viewer.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I doubt it, his fans wont be so desperate as to join together with another hm fans to block vote and sway the proper will of the bb viewer.

I would sacrifice Joe to take away Raphs only storyline...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It was raph who went to talk to joe, not the other way round.

Well of course he did...he wanted to look the better person having achieved what he set out to do.
The saintly Raph...so good at turning people against each other. The biggest snake in there...created the outsiders to create a them and us situation...feeding the gossip and igniting flames and leaving his 'mates' to fight it out.
Lovely guy...the biggest snake in there...but because it's Raph you will love him for it.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well of course he did...he wanted to look the better person having achieved what he set out to do.
The saintly Raph...so good at turning people against each other. The biggest snake in there...created the outsiders to create a them and us situation...feeding the gossip and igniting flames and leaving his 'mates' to fight it out.
Lovely guy...the biggest snake in there...but because it's Raph you will love him for it.

Soooooo because he attempted a reconciliation between just himself and Joe, you came up with all that?

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He has just hugged and made up with raph in a non gay hating manner....apologised for not coming up to him instead letting it eat away at him.

He's hoping he won't get votes to evict him - if he wasn't up he would never have shaken Raph's hand.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by mr rochester

He's hoping he won't get votes to evict him - if he wasn't up he would never have shaken Raph's hand.

I don't know, it seemed genuine. But it was Raph who went to talk to Joe, not the other way around.

[Vanessa]

Joe sees Raph as a threat to winning the show. It has always been about getting rid of the competition. This is why he nominates him every week.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by mr rochester

He's hoping he won't get votes to evict him - if he wasn't up he would never have shaken Raph's hand.

maybe Tom might go then after all, in some polls and odds he's really getting closer to Joe

[Beso]

Talking of his mates. There was aa distinct lack of raph with chanelle isobelle or hannah material tonight..do i sniff a crack in his friendahips?

[iRyan]

I've said this from the start. His sense of masculinity is so fragile.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by iRyan

I've said this from the start. His sense of masculinity is so fragile.

I mean he's admitted to wearing his wife's cloths, is ok with talking about guy he would sleep with if he was gay and is quite effeminate I don't think his masculinity is that bad. Imo he's more worried about not being respected. I feel like Andrew bruised his ego rather than his masculinity.

[Northern Monkey]

Er no.

A straight guy not liking a gay guy calling him darling is not homophobic lol.

Specially in a deliberate attempt to try a patronise him.Joe did well not to twat him tbf.

[RhysJones]

No, anyone could see that was Andrew very clearly bating Joe and trying to anger him while he could stay quite calm

[Jase.]

Joe said he'd **** Kieron if he was a woman and how he likes crossdressing/finding his "inner woman" - camp things for a homophobe, no?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by That Girl

he literally only flew into a rage after andrew called him 'darling boy'

scum confirmed?

Homophobia is not a magic shield to hide behind if you are rude to someone. You are not understanding the meaning.

[Jedman]

It's more because Andrew was deliberately trying to wind him up, I think that comment would wind up any guy to be fair when said in that manner.

[sampvt]

Situations like this are not real life so assumptions are academic. In a house with other mates and security around the corner, wimps and nobodies with game plans or axes to grind, like Andrew, are protected, so they say what they want and get away with it. He would never act like that in real life in the outside world because he knows that a massive portion of the male hetrosexuals out there would have re arranged his wonky teeth if he had have called them darling boy.

Him going in saying he is a champion for peoples rights is just plain daft. He is still walking and that in itself proves he is a novice at this kind of action. Joe is a dickhead and i dont like him, never have, but I swear to you all that toms getting my votes this week, because i want wonky teeth to get his just deserts next week and if joe is saved, Both Raph and Andrew will think twice as they will realise he isnt that hated.

[Vicky.]

Yeah, I don't think it was the darling as such (though that was a clear attempt to bait) I think it was the 'darling BOY' which was just fairly ridiculous.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah, I don't think it was the darling as such (though that was a clear attempt to bait) I think it was the 'darling BOY' which was just fairly ridiculous.

Yeah it was a bit patronizing tbf but I hate Joe so I don't care

[Vanessa]

I don't think Joe is homophobic. But he's horrible. He treats Raph like he's child who must be quiet when adults are talking

[Ellen]

It was patronising as it was meant to be.

[chuff me dizzy]

The "BUT" as Joe walked away ,clearly baiting, any man would have reacted as Joe did ,Andrew wants to think himself lucky he said it in the house, I doubt VERY much he would speak to anyone like that outside the house

[Vanessa]

Note that it was Raph who went to talk to Joe, not the other way around. Joe would never have done it.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Note that it was Raph who went to talk to Joe, not the other way around. Joe would never have done it.

Rightly so. Raph's kicked it all off with his comment then Andrew thought he would be the Hero of the hour

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Note that it was Raph who went to talk to Joe, not the other way around. Joe would never have done it.

Snake boy only did that hoping Joe would tell him to eff off. Snake boy wanted that so he could play the victim. It backfired and you could see snake boy didnt expect it and he couldnt even make up his mind what to do. He just sat there stunned. Joe took over and made him look like a jerk and snake boy got his little collar felt. Thats the truth.