[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

How can he be jeaous? He doesn't need the money.

Just because he doesn't NEED it doesn't mean he doesn't want to win it.
Raph just likes to put people down for wanting the money like its a 'dirty' thing. No one is going to say they want the money and looking desperate.
Raph needs to pull back and realise that some people DO need the money. Not everyone can comfortably say they are JUST in there for the experience and the money is irrelevant.
Raph seems to think he is and looks a better person for being in there for other reasons than money...he needs to appreciate that not everyone is as financially secure like he is...and able to give up 10 weeks of earning potential just for 'the experience'.
Raph needs to be a little bit more humble and understand what that money means to them...instead of calling it dirty money. He shouldn't be so judgmental...but he does that a lot.

[Littlegreen]

He had Simone one minute telling him Andrew was a money-grabber, but put that to one side. Then Andrew takes all the money and proves Simone right. You can't blame Raph for being annoyed.

In Raph's head though I think he was more upset about Andrew evicting Sam (as the other second-chance housemate) because it defeated the purpose of BB (public decides).

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Andrew being shown saying he does not care about the money. even cried and wanted to quit because Simone said it, and he even said it at the start of the episode.... Andrew pressed the button and wins the money....... hmmmm let me check my dictionary, I thought I saw Andrews picture next to the word HYPOCRITE

[joeysteele]

No, not jealous, he's got no reason to be.
Andrew had just before we were shown the end of this twist that he wasn't interested in money.

However it's a game in there,Andrew went for it and got it.
I think it unfortunate someone can come in so late in a series and have any chance to walk away with near a third of the prize fund.

That's BB however.

Definitely though,Raph is not I would say,jealous of Andrew at all, disappointed yes and then he has the distorted reporting of Josie and Chanelle's boyfriend ringing in his ears about Andrew.

Disappointed in Andrew yes, jealous not a chance.

[Vanessa]

They're still friends. So no jealousy whatsoever.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He is so bitter he is going home poor

what if Raph WON?

He would have more Cash that the Scottish lad

[RhysJones]

In the diary room, an element of jealousy came through. Raph seems to have a problem with people who are in there for the money even if they desperately need the money for themselves to live like Andrew or for their family like Deborah. And what he said about Andrew taking the weak option, when that is so far from te truth because he's leaving with 33k

[jet]

I just wish BB would stop messing around with the prize money. The full amount of money should go to the winner, end of story imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He is so bitter he is going home poor

It's not over yet.

It's VTW now for him, which will be Raph's biggest strength at this stage.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

In the diary room, an element of jealousy came through. Raph seems to have a problem with people who are in there for the money even if they desperately need the money for themselves to live like Andrew or for their family like Deborah. And what he said about Andrew taking the weak option, when that is so far from te truth because he's leaving with 33k

Raph has been nothing but supportive to Deborah, wtf?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

He had Simone one minute telling him Andrew was a money-grabber, but put that to one side. Then Andrew takes all the money and proves Simone right. You can't blame Raph for being annoyed.

In Raph's head though I think he was more upset about Andrew evicting Sam (as the other second-chance housemate) because it defeated the purpose of BB (public decides).

Tbf that would've happened if Andrew had've picked anyone that could win the show though, in fact even moreso in that case.

I do think that Andrew showed himself up to be a hypocrite though when he is saying that he doesn't care about the money and then uses a weak excuse for pushing the button that "Hannah would evict me" when I actually think that she could've gone for Charlotte or Tom.

[RhysJones]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Raph has been nothing but supportive to Deborah, wtf?

One night when Joe asked Deborah if she would take the money (however much they offered) and she said she would cos she'd use it to help raise her child. Then Raph immediately shouted at him, 'but she's not here for the money' which she clearly is. And there's nothing wrong with that unless you're Raph, who has a massive problem with people who are in there for the money

[tb24259]

I don't think Raph is jealous of Andrew at all. I'm betting he simply doesn't approve of Andrew evicting Sam and taking that money too

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Serg

Raph is so annoying lately, like he's acting like he's above everyone else and that money shaming is really stupid. Not everyone has high earning and comes from a wealthy family so sit tf down you virgin.

Yes when Andrew was getting his back sack and crack waxed everyone was joining in laughing - and he sort of went off in a huff - jealous Im sure. He couldnt do something that undignified as he cares WAAAY too much what his University buddies think first. He is not a nice person at all - its all been an act. Being in pyschology - with others on his course and the way he rolls his smokes - I would say he is most interested in winning than anyone. None of his friendships are genuine either.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.

Good points. If Simone was being truthful about Andrew not having a 'pot to piss in' he would have been foolish not to take the money when the opportunity arose. In fact, I'd prefer the money to go to someone without a 'pot' than someone who is financially sound.

To me, the comment about the money being tainted was unfair and a bit extreme. You're right - Raph would have gained more respect had he responded more magnanimously.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

He had Simone one minute telling him Andrew was a money-grabber, but put that to one side. Then Andrew takes all the money and proves Simone right. You can't blame Raph for being annoyed.

In Raph's head though I think he was more upset about Andrew evicting Sam (as the other second-chance housemate) because it defeated the purpose of BB (public decides).

Simone didn't say he was a money grabber - she said he needed the money as he didn't have a 'pot to piss in'. I think Andrew was more upset about her revealing his personal circumstances than anything else. I don't believe he is a money grabber for taking an opportunity that arose- if he is in financial difficulty, he'd be silly not to take it.

If Raph is upset about Andrew evicting Sam, his gripe should be with BB rather than Andrew who enabled housemates rather than the public to evict.

I wonder what Raph would have done had he'd have had the opportunity? He was quick enough to press the button when they were earning the money in their teams and he knew then that they were accumulating prize money.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Simone was right about Andrew. There's nothing wrong in taking the money. But after he made such a fuss about not being there for the money he looks like a bit of a hypocrite.

He pressed the button to keep himself in the house, fearing whoever pressed it would evict him.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

I just wish BB would stop messing around with the prize money. The full amount of money should go to the winner, end of story imo.

I agree totally and for me it was even more stupid,when all could and should have been from near the start,to bring 4 more housemates in, so late on.
Then also have them able between the four of them to win 15k but not the series at all.
To then also have them included in any prize fund related tasks.

Just plain bonkers in my view.

[Kazanne]

Raph is a walking contradiction , that's for sure.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree totally and for me it was even more stupid,when all could and should have been from near the start,to bring 4 more housemates in, so late on.
Then also have them able between the four of them to win 15k but not the series at all.
To then also have them included in any prize fund related tasks.

Just plain bonkers in my view.

Although I don't blame Andrew for taking the money, you're right that the new housemates shouldn't have been included in a task which involved the prize fund when they have only been there for such a short time.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

Then Raph immediately shouted at him, 'but she's not here for the money' which she clearly is. And there's nothing wrong with that unless you're Raph, who has a massive problem with people who are in there for the money

omg this low-key INFURIATED me bc Joe was just applauding the fact that Deborah wants to use the money to help her family and Raph turned it into some ****ing bull**** nonsense about whether you're here For The Money or For The Experience.

[azi]

His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.

[joeysteele]

Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by azi

His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.

They didn't agree on taking the money, but they're still friends.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.

They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts