[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

^ That´s why a daily live feed would be essential. So that there is no room for error.

Those who watch live fed would know that Jess and Andrew aren't close and why. If you only watch the highlights you would have no idea.

[Vanessa]

Whoever leaves tomorrow won't change anything. The problem will still be there. They need to talk to each other.

[Alf]

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Alf

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

But the ladies are tucked up in bed early, just so that Ann can sleep. I think everyone should go to bed when they want. They should turn off the light when they want.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But the ladies are tucked up in bed early, just so that Ann can sleep. I think everyone should go to bed when they want. The should turn off the light when they want.

The light issue is on Big Brother, not Ann.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Alf

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

My thoughts too. I think he wants to be the center of things in general and even though Ann probably does have a certain level of influence over some hm's, I don't think Andrews problem is that in itself or that he's concerned for their independence, it's that he wants to have that influence instead. He's not really looking out for the other girls he's just jealous of Ann imo. And tbh Ann's influence doesn't really stretch that far anyway, it's mostly just people being respectful towards a 70 year old woman.

[jaxie]

The fact is they are all adults and I don't see Ann having anyone against the glass with their hands up their back forcing them to go to bed. If they are intimidated by her, that's on them.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The fact is they are all adults and I don't see Ann having anyone against the glass with their hands up their back forcing them to go to bed. If they are intimidated by her, that's on them.

Exactly...and not one of them has complained that Ann is 'making' them go to bed.

[Livia]

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

[Ellen]

Ann has never said the girls need to go to bed when she does.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Ann has never said the girls need to go to bed when she does.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

If the option is going to bed or staying up with Andrew the garbage face then I'd be in bed fast asleep

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

She didnt actually say Ashley its your bed time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

Ann is the epitome of just being honest/speaking her mind, I hate hate hate when every year a HMs nasty and rude behaviour is passed off with that excuse. What Ann does is an actual example of that, she doesn't say things to upset people and she doesn't insult people, she just speaks her mind when she needs to and I will add I don't even like alot of her opinions but they're hers and she's not hurting anyone by having them or stopping anyone else from having their own

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ann is the epitome of just being honest/speaking her mind, I hate hate hate when every year a HMs nasty and rude behaviour is passed off with that excuse. What Ann does is an actual example of that, she doesn't say things to upset people and she doesn't insult people, she just speaks her mind when she needs to and I will add I don't even like alot of her opinions but they're hers and she's not hurting anyone by having them or stopping anyone else from having their own

I couldn't agree more. She actually speaks her mind and when she does she engages the clutch of tact. I've seen her questioned about her opinions by people ready for a fight, but once she explains herself, and that it's her own, well thought-through opinion... there's not much they can counter with.

[Jase.]

Absolutely. She's clearly a terrible person.

[girlfighter1992]

Yes I agree with Andrew he is spot on about Ann but I know a lot of people will disagree him because everybody loves Ann the winner this year.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

Yes I agree with Andrew he is spot on about Ann but I know a lot of people will disagree him because everybody loves Ann the winner this year.

This. And he isn't the only one who thinks that either. But some people conveniently ignore that and put them it all on Andrew.

[girlfighter1992]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This. And he isn't the only one who thinks that either. But some people conveniently ignore that and put them it all on Andrew.

I know its annoying me that people are hating on him because he gets annoyed by Ann where there are some of the others who do as well

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

I know its annoying me that people are hating on him because he gets annoyed by Ann where there are some of the others who do as well

Whoever goes tomorrow won't solve the problem. It will still be there and I bet things will kick off soon.

[Denver]

He as no respect for his elders is parents must be embarrassed by him

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Andrew has a problem with women

Good luck any women that goes out with him

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think Andrew has a problem with women

Good luck any women that goes out with him

You know you might be right LT. He is also a bit negative about Jess and the other girls isn't he?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think Andrew has a problem with women

Good luck any women that goes out with him

I think he doesn't like authority and be controlled , to be honest. It's nothing personal against Ann. He just sees her as bossy. He seems to get on well with Amanda, who is older than Ann but more open minded.