[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

I donīt think they showed Jess criticizing Andrew in his game play either, even though it was on the news.

They should show these things. I don't like it when they keep things out of the highlights.

[Calderyon]

^ Thatīs why a daily live feed would be essential. So that there is no room for error.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

^ Thatīs why a daily live feed would be essential. So that there is no room for error.

Those who watch live fed would know that Jess and Andrew aren't close and why. If you only watch the highlights you would have no idea.

[Vanessa]

Whoever leaves tomorrow won't change anything. The problem will still be there. They need to talk to each other.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Jess is trying to carve herself a storyline. Now the final is in sight she needs to pipe up. Where has she been in the first two weeks? Flying under the radar.

Sorry Van you couldnt be more wrong. She may not have been the most vocal in the house but she has converted so many people including me to the idea that maybe just maybe there are glamour models out there who can go into big brother and not flash their tits and bums at every opportunity, CONSTANTLY hog mirrors and trowel on coat after coat of makeup and NOT start jumping into bed with the only single guys. Andrew is tarring Jess with the brush that she should be the ultimate glamour model in there and put it about because he is BITTER to the core and knows that if he tried anything with her he would get nowhere. In the early days the lads were all saying she was fit and they would love to get with her. I am delighted to see Jess'es popularity on here specially in housemate rankings. Its so different to how other glamour models have been perceived down through the years

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

As soon as Jess was critical of Andrew, you started criticizing her, cause for you Andrew can do no wrong.

As for the statement above, i disagree it fully.

PRECISELY

[Alf]

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Alf

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

But the ladies are tucked up in bed early, just so that Ann can sleep. I think everyone should go to bed when they want. They should turn off the light when they want.

[jaxie]

The fact is they are all adults and I don't see Ann having anyone against the glass with their hands up their back forcing them to go to bed. If they are intimidated by her, that's on them.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But the ladies are tucked up in bed early, just so that Ann can sleep. I think everyone should go to bed when they want. The should turn off the light when they want.

The light issue is on Big Brother, not Ann.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The fact is they are all adults and I don't see Ann having anyone against the glass with their hands up their back forcing them to go to bed. If they are intimidated by her, that's on them.

Exactly...and not one of them has complained that Ann is 'making' them go to bed.

[Livia]

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

They are all grown women. I would suggest if Ann makes them self-conscious about their behaviour, perhaps they know that their behaviour is questionable?

Ann has more character and entertainment value than most of the females in there. Some of them I can hardly recall.

Ann is the epitome of just being honest/speaking her mind, I hate hate hate when every year a HMs nasty and rude behaviour is passed off with that excuse. What Ann does is an actual example of that, she doesn't say things to upset people and she doesn't insult people, she just speaks her mind when she needs to and I will add I don't even like alot of her opinions but they're hers and she's not hurting anyone by having them or stopping anyone else from having their own

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Alf

Andrew wants control, but has run into a smarter person whom he can't control and he doesn't like it.

Doesn't he want to control that everyone should stay up late? He's decided that if Ann wasn't there, that all the girls will stay up late with him.

My thoughts too. I think he wants to be the center of things in general and even though Ann probably does have a certain level of influence over some hm's, I don't think Andrews problem is that in itself or that he's concerned for their independence, it's that he wants to have that influence instead. He's not really looking out for the other girls he's just jealous of Ann imo. And tbh Ann's influence doesn't really stretch that far anyway, it's mostly just people being respectful towards a 70 year old woman.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ann is the epitome of just being honest/speaking her mind, I hate hate hate when every year a HMs nasty and rude behaviour is passed off with that excuse. What Ann does is an actual example of that, she doesn't say things to upset people and she doesn't insult people, she just speaks her mind when she needs to and I will add I don't even like alot of her opinions but they're hers and she's not hurting anyone by having them or stopping anyone else from having their own

I couldn't agree more. She actually speaks her mind and when she does she engages the clutch of tact. I've seen her questioned about her opinions by people ready for a fight, but once she explains herself, and that it's her own, well thought-through opinion... there's not much they can counter with.

[Ellen]

Ann has never said the girls need to go to bed when she does.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Ann has never said the girls need to go to bed when she does.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

If the option is going to bed or staying up with Andrew the garbage face then I'd be in bed fast asleep

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She did last night tbf, searching for Ashley so the lights could be turned out pretty sure Ashley was planning on going to bed anyway after the Diary Room, her "man" was already gone to bed

She didnt actually say Ashley its your bed time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

She didnt actually say Ashley its your bed time

Well no but she did ask where she was and then told the boys to tell her to come in so the lights could be switched off however Ashleys was already in her PJs so she'd probably told her she was going to bed

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well no but she did ask where she was and then told the boys to tell her to come in so the lights could be switched off however Ashleys was already in her PJs so she'd probably told her she was going to bed

It was past 1am and there was a clip on bots where all the other women from the room were telling Ann well done for asking Ashley to go to bed.

On that occasion I think they were all waiting for the lights off, though typically it's Ann who gets the 'blame'.

[Jase.]

Absolutely. She's clearly a terrible person.

[Vanessa]

He definitely has a point. But I think Big brother refusing to switch off the lights is causing most of the problem.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by rionablue

No. The housemates have free minds of their own. They respect her but if they dont want to do what she asks or agree with her I am sure they wont do it. Andrew is just jealous that SHE is getting more attention from the young girls than HE IS the pillock

Spot on. Let's get this straight. Ann is 70 years old and 5 feet 1.

Seriously she is controlling the house??

What a joke, Andrew. Grow a pair.