[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lewis111

If you have homophobic views and are challanged on them - it's not bullying

So nothing is bullying if its not against gays ? only gays get bullied

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by lewis111

If you have homophobic views and are challanged on them - it's not bullying

He wasn't challenging any views. He was running around behind her back trying to turn other people against her. What a weasel.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by lewis111

If you have homophobic views and are challanged on them - it's not bullying

He has already challenged Ann...he did it the 2nd day he was in there and he seemed to accept it. 3 weeks down the line he is is now trying to turn the other housemates on her behind her back. Like Kazanne said...trying to segregate her..that's bullying.
With Andrew gone...his storyline is weak. Now he has to give himself a purpose and targeting Ann will please his wannabe lover Andrew..because Andrew did not like her.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

BB need to step in and evict the vile pair


Sickening

No let them face the public vote.

[Paula D]

Trying to get a gang of people to turn on one person is the very definition of bullying.

Very glad it backfired.

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[joeysteele]

Bullying is one of the most misused words on here.
Every series it comes up and makes a mockery of real bullying.

Never likely in her life,never in her whole career in the really hard unpleasant world at times in politics.
Certainly never after politics too,would anyone or any group be able to bully Ann Widdecombe.

She can,when she decides to,wipe the floor with anyone,man,woman,regardless of status.

She even lectures BB,even BB cannot seem to win through as to her.

Utter tripe, Ann Widdecombe has in her life stood up to anyone and everyone.
She is no different now.

I've seen interviews where she's slapped down the interviewer too.
She's afraid of no one and no one in this world would be able to,or get away with even attempting to bully Ann Widdecombe.

Shane J, however Malika too don't care for Ann,they are seeking support for their stance.
Neither have said to anyone, we don't want people speaking to Ann.

Wayne actually agrees with Shane J, however he seems detached from politics and career so chooses to just do the show.
Shane J should do so too,not let this eat away at him for this last week.

Or,he should ask Ann if she was prepared to discuss it with him, I say again, I think she would and would even like to.
That's where he's going wrong on this matter.

Of course it's important to him, on issues important to me,I am like a dog with a bone until I've exhausted getting to the bottom of said issue.
I feel,since he learned Ann's position on lgbt rights and the fact she would still battle, using any influence she could, to deny them or even remove them.
It's like a dog with a bone to him too.

Amanda stood up for Ann,whether Ann is liked or not as a person doesn't matter.
She wanted in place discrimination against and still would want it, as to lgbt rights.
That's a fact and wrong,totally wrong.

However bullying Ann Widdecombe,Ann herself would likely give the biggest laugh herself at the suggestion.
That anyone dare see her as a.Woman anyone could even try to.

Her strength,determination and tramping on anyone getting in her way, is the badge this Woman proudly has worn all her adult life.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

He did not challenge her on her views though. He went behind her back trying to turn everyone else against her, simply because he heard in his letter the whole LGBT role model stuff. If he genuinely cared about her views, he would challenge her on them directly, not try to set Wayne on her, then go round the HMs individually to try and turn them against her randomly.

I don't get how he suddenly has a problem now when this was all discussed earlier in the series in a very mature convo between the two and he specifically said that he disagreed with her views but it was her right to have them. Suddenly now, theres an issue.

He already challenged her views directly on like day 5

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Bullying is one of the most misused words on here.
Every series it comes up and makes a mockery of real bullying.

Never likely in her life,never in her whole career in the really hard unpleasant world at times in politics.
Certainly never after politics too,would anyone or any group be able to bully Ann Widdecombe.

She can,when she decides to,wipe the floor with anyone,man,woman,regardless of status.

She even lectures BB,even BB cannot seem to win through as to her.

Utter tripe, Ann Widdecombe has in her life stood up to anyone and everyone.
She is no different now.

I've seen interviews where she's slapped down the interviewer too.
She's afraid of no one and no one in this world would be able to,or get away with even attempting Ann Widdecombe.

Shane J, however Malika too don't care for Ann,they are seeking support for their stance.
Neither have said to anyone, we don't want people speaking to Ann.

Wayne actually agrees with Shane J, however he seems detached from politics and career so chooses to just do the show.
Shane J should do so too,not let this eat away at him for this last week.

Or,he should ask Ann if she was prepared to discuss it with her,I say again, I think she would and would even like to.
That's where he's going wrong on this matter.

Of course it's important to him, on issues important to me,I am like a dog with a bone until I've exhausted getting to the bottom of said issue.
I feel,since he learned Ann's position on lgbt rights and the fact she would still battle, using any influence she could, to deny them or even remove them.
It's like a dog with a bone to him too.

Amanda stood up for Ann,whether Ann is liked or not as a person doesn't matter.
She wanted in place discrimination against and still would want it, as to lgbt rights.
That's a fact and wrong,totally wrong.

However bullying Ann Widdecombe,Ann herself would likely give the biggest laugh herself at the suggestion.
That anyone dare see her as a.Wonan anyone could even try to.

Her strength,determination and tramping on anyone getting in her way, is the badge this Woman proudly has worn all her adult life.

you really have to drop the hate for her party and try and see her as a housemate, a real person and not the Conservative Party

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you really have to drop the hate for her party and try and see her as a housemate, a real person and not the Conservative Party

Wrong again.

I have never said I hate the Conservative party.
Up to being 19,I'd have supported Con govts.

It is the last coalition and this govt I detest.
It's leader and her hardline Cabinet.

I repeatedly say,not that I need to ever answer to your endless tripe towards me.
There are,and I know there are loads of decent more moderate Con MPs. who I hope will soon take the Conservative party back to real compassionate conservatism.

You will dismiss all that anyway which is why I'd rarely waste my time on here engaging with you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Wrong again.

I have never said I hate the Conservative party.
Up to being 19,I'd have supported Con govts.

It is the last coalition and this govt I detest.
It's leader and her hardline Cabinet.

I repeatedly say,not that I need to ever answer to your endless tripe towards me.
There are,and I know there are loads of decent more moderate Con MPs. who I hope will soon take the Conservative party back to real compassionate conservatism.

You will dismiss all that anyway which is why I'd rarely waste my time on here engaging with you.

you seem to say that to rather a lot of posters these days....

and lets hope forum members dont judge you on when you were a card carrying Tory like shane and you judge ann on her past..

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you seem to say that to rather a lot of posters these days....

and lets hope forum members dont judge you on when you were a card carrying Tory like shane and you judge ann on her past..

I've said it to you and one other.

I was never a card carrying Conservative.Wrong yet again.

A tiny few forum members have wrongly judged me on my change of politics anyway and hold it against me too.
That's their problem,not mine at all.

Furthermore all the things I believe in as to politics I still hold to.
They have not come from the last 2 Con led govts.
Especially as to social policies.

[Greg!]

Oh for god sake.

[Greg!]

Why are people still shook at people talking behind other's backs on Big Brother in the year of our Lord 2018. It happens in every single series and it's a part of human nature.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Greg!

He already challenged her views directly on like day 5

Yes. And appeared to accept that she had different views to him. If he has changed his mind, then he should be the one challenging her rather than trying to set others onto her

I like them both so am finding this rivalry between fans mildly amusing. But he was very very in the wrong last night with his behavior.

It was not just talking behind someones back either, so not sure why that keeps being said. Of course a degree of twofacedness is expected among humans. But this was not just having a bit of a whinge, it was actively trying to get others to attack her

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes. And appeared to accept that she had different views to him. If he has changed his mind, then he should be the one challenging her rather than trying to set others onto her

I like them both so am finding this rivalry between fans mildly amusing. But he was very very in the wrong last night with his behavior.

It was not just talking behind someones back either, so not sure why that keeps being said. Of course a degree of twofacedness is expected among humans. But this was not just having a bit of a whinge, it was actively trying to get others to attack her

Fan wars. Happens every time

[Crimson Dynamo]

I loved to see Wayne stand up to the bullys and put them in their place



for a small man he grew to a giant to chastise their evil ways

[Nicky91]

so great Shane J, choosing your allies wisely in loyal Malika rather than backstabber Ashley, and ashley's time is up in the house on tuesday's eviction anyway

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

so great Shane J, choosing your allies wisely in loyal Malika rather than backstabber Ashley, and ashley's time is up in the house on tuesday's eviction anyway

Jump ship again...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jump ship again...

this place is a place of wonder

[-Sue-]

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

No one is bullying anyone in there. They just have different views.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No one is bullying anyone in there. They just have different views.

Exactly

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

shane rolled his eyes twice last night

or did that escape you?

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

shane rolled his eyes twice last night

or did that escape you?

The difference between shane lubricating his eye balls once and Ann doing it more than eating hot meals is uncanny right!

Once again sun seems to shine out of ann's arse and shane gets crucified for having an opinion that doesn't match hers.. or for simply having a laugh...( i don't buy it (fear of cotton wool) ann gets defensive and rude towards shane!!

Some are too afraid to confront ann's opinions in fear of her having a pop at them I like how shane is so beyond fed up of being treated like a non existent entity by ann on occasion he has had enough and it shows! He may not always come across well but at least he is not a nodding dog sat on the back shelf of the car agreeing with everything ann has to say!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The difference between shane lubricating his eye balls once and Ann doing it more than eating hot meals is uncanny right!

Once again sun seems to shine out of ann's arse and shane gets crucified for having an opinion that doesn't match hers.. or for simply having a laugh...( i don't buy it (fear of cotton wool) ann gets defensive and rude towards shane!!

Some are too afraid to confront ann's opinions in fear of her having a pop at them I like how shane is so beyond fed up of being treated like a non existent entity by ann on occasion he has had enough and it shows! He may not always come across well but at least he is not a nodding dog sat on the back shelf of the car agreeing with everything ann has to say!

when you get to Ann and Amanda's age you find that you have heard a few things before

I am sure them both and Wayne have come across many "shanes" and after a while they get a little tiresome...