[Marches]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, LT, it's all fine now. Someone told me on this forum this morning, that women are pretty much sorted now. No problems with sexism, no glass ceiling, no pay gap... it's all about the gays now. Well, not the kind of gays I know... the kind of gays who've never heard of live and let live.

This post is obviously aimed at me but like I never said that we should focus on the gays what

And the pay gap doesn’t exist it doesn’t account for different hours work and different job positions.

I’ve worked at 3 different part time jobs while studying and I’ve never seen a girl get paid less than a male purely because lmao woman. In fact two of my bosses were female. You could make the statement that there aren’t enough girls in power which like there’s inconsistencies in it but fine but there’s nothing at all stopping a woman getting to the top of her field, nor stopping her getting full pay?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marches

This post is obviously aimed at me but like I never said that we should focus on the gays what

And the pay gap doesn’t exist it doesn’t account for different hours work and different job positions.

I’ve worked at 3 different part time jobs while studying and I’ve never seen a girl get paid less than a male purely because lmao woman. In fact two of my bosses were female. You could make the statement that there aren’t enough girls in power which like there’s inconsistencies in it but fine but there’s nothing at all stopping a woman getting to the top of her field, nor stopping her getting full pay?

Not sure about the bold bit.

I've never seen someone get beaten up for being gay, but I'm not going to deny it happens.

It's not just the pay, it's the inequality in all manner of areas. And while things are getting better really quickly in this country, if you look at the wider world the picture is, to say the least, grim.

[Marches]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure about the bold bit.

I've never seen someone get beaten up for being gay, but I'm not going to deny it happens.

It's not just the pay, it's the inequality in all manner of areas. And while things are getting better really quickly in this country, if you look at the wider world the picture is, to say the least, grim.

Yeah of course the treatment of women in the third world is appalling
But personally I’ve delved into both sides of the debate and I don’t women have it worse than men in the first world. It’s a pretty huge debate but yeah most of the main talking points of feminism for example are either untrue or apply to men too imo

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marches

Yeah of course the treatment of women in the third world is appalling
But personally I’ve delved into both sides of the debate and I don’t women have it worse than men in the first world. It’s a pretty huge debate but yeah most of the main talking points of feminism for example are either untrue or apply to men too

I work in the legal profession... sexism is alive and well.I must say I've not experienced it much since I qualified, but I've seen some appalling things. And I really don't agree that suddenly, because there's been some legislation, that there are no more problems affecting women exclusively. It's like trying to claim there is no more homophobia and no racism.

Anyhoo... off topic...

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Marches

This post is obviously aimed at me but like I never said that we should focus on the gays what

And the pay gap doesn’t exist it doesn’t account for different hours work and different job positions.

I’ve worked at 3 different part time jobs while studying and I’ve never seen a girl get paid less than a male purely because lmao woman. In fact two of my bosses were female. You could make the statement that there aren’t enough girls in power which like there’s inconsistencies in it but fine but there’s nothing at all stopping a woman getting to the top of her field, nor stopping her getting full pay?

The pay gaps don't happen at entry level or even middle management, they do exist higher up. Its a fact, women of child bearing age get over looked for promotions, in case they dare to take maternity...etc etc. There is still sexism faced but thankfully, it is being eroded.

So I half agree with you there

[Amy Jade]

Oh well. Andrew can win then.

[Jase.]

The irony of an Ann supporter calling somebody else bigoted

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

The irony of an Ann supporter calling somebody else bigoted

I know, right?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know, right?

Vanessa, if you fancy someone in next year's CBB, you wouldn't care what their views are.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

Vanessa, if you fancy someone in next year's CBB, you wouldn't care what their views are.

If I find them entertaining then they have my support. Their views are important, but mostly I want to be entertained

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Livia

Vanessa, if you fancy someone in next year's CBB, you wouldn't care what their views are.

So true.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

The irony of an Ann supporter calling somebody else bigoted

Almost as ironic as people screaming that someone's a homophobe, while other, less ridiculous gay people, make friends with them.

[Kazanne]

I am sure a lot of people commenting on Ann actually know very little about her they are just following the crowd,believeing tweets and their friends and family , trying to be smart and failing mostly ,it reminds me of mob mentality,plus she is not young and attractive so that makes her unlikable to some , the fact that some think she is a figure of fun says so much about who THEY are,not her.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

the fact that some think she is a figure of fun says so much about who THEY are,not her.

No need to get personal, Kazanne! It's against the rules!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

No need to get personal, Kazanne! It's against the rules!

Nothing personal,just fact,report it if you dont like it.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

report it if you dont like it.

Will do!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

Will do!

Good lad

[Vanessa]

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard when I'm voting for the winner I don't care who they're friends with. It shouldn't matter.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard when I'm voting for the winner I don't care who they're friends with. It shouldn't matter.

Hmm, why do I not believe that?

Avid Andrew supporter switches to Shane J? Not a bit suspicious.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Hmm, why do I not believe that?

Avid Andrew supporter switches to Shane J? Not a bit suspicious.

And suddenly hated Ann, even after supporting them at the beginning of the series, going as far to have her as an avatar.

I don't care who supports who (whom) for what reasons to to call others ridiculous is a little rich

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

And suddenly hated Ann, even after supporting them at the beginning of the series, going as far to have her as an avatar.

I don't care who supports who (whom) for what reasons to to call others ridiculous is a little rich

are people not allowed to change their opinions?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

And suddenly hated Ann, even after supporting them at the beginning of the series, going as far to have her as an avatar.

I don't care who supports who (whom) for what reasons to to call others ridiculous is a little rich

Maybe she got sick of the eye rolling or heard about Ann supporting conversion therapy?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Hmm, why do I not believe that?

Avid Andrew supporter switches to Shane J? Not a bit suspicious.

I'm not even friends with Vanessa and I know she has always supported Shane J. If I recall she voted for Shane rather than Andrew in the last eviction.

Not that it's actually any of your business how long somebody has supported a housemate to be quite honest.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I'm not even friends with Vanessa and I know she has always supported Shane J. If I recall she voted for Shane rather than Andrew in the last eviction.

Not that it's actually any of your business how long somebody has supported a housemate to be quite honest.

She's supported Ann,then Andrew then Shane J

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard when I'm voting for the winner I don't care who they're friends with. It shouldn't matter.

Exactly.
I hope you just ignore the unnecessary comments Vanessa.

A win for Shane J,would be a win for Shane J/Courtney only no one else.