[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I swear when i was on netflix the other day season 2 was showing but now it’s not? It’s something to do with the BBC owning the rights for so long BUT I SWEAR I SAW IT

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I’m obsessed with lil papi

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Fetch The Bolt Cutters

I swear when i was on netflix the other day season 2 was showing but now it’s not? It’s something to do with the BBC owning the rights for so long BUT I SWEAR I SAW IT

See if it’s still on BBC iPlayer that’s where I watched it.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I did chick that’s where i’ve started watching it

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[LaLaLand]

Can't wait for S3, so much major stuff happens in S2 that idek where they're going this time.

Hope they can pick up filming again soon, believe they were half way through when 'rona halted production.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Shaun

This starts airing on BBC2 on Thursday, shall definitely give it a watch

A year and a half later and I'm finally there. Binged the first four episodes, cried over two of them (3/4, the Christmas episode - the red pumps <3 - and the one where the boys get tested)

I must admit I'm a little annoyed at Evan Peters being given top billing when his character is so inconsequential and serves nothing more than to remind this world of what they're being trodden down by. I appreciate his/Angel's relationship story but don't put him and his barely-there wife top of the god damn bill even if Billy Porter gets all the awards.

Blanca is maybe my favourite character of the past decade if that means anything. Such a warm and layered character. Oh and Dyllon Burnside

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...Lord you couldn’t not cry when she gave Angel the red pumps......and then when they gave Blanca the heart in return because she’s their heart...I cried me a river.......

[Ammi]

...episodes 5 & 6.......


...the characters of Blanca and Pray Tell and their friendship....

[Ammi]

...I think I’m on around episode 7 or 8 of series 2 at the minute and I’m absolutely going to need grief counselling when it’s over because the characters are so easy to fall in love with...a by the by, Indya Moore is totally gorgeous and I hadn’t known her story at all, she seems like a very spectacular person who has achieved so much and overcome so much in the achieving of......


...I’m changing my username to Pray Tell...

[Shaun]

I got up to the first episode of S2 and I was mildly annoyed by them randomly turning Elektra back into a villain just for a bit of plot shakeup. I know Dominique Jackson plays a villain fantastically but it just completely undid her S1 arc typical Murphy nonsense.

Ah well, the rest of it is still great.

[Ammi]

...I wouldn’t say that she’s turned back, Shaun...she’s Elektra, a totally entitled QUEEN, so her arc is always going to shake at times and be quite bumpy......but that’s part of her charm also, she’s still very much on the arc, I would say...if she looked like she was reviving her full time villainess...?...Blanca would have her back in line with a swift click of her well polished nails...I love their friendship despite how different they are...

[Ammi]

..oh and another great positive with series 2...?...no Stan and whatshername, his wife...

[Shaun]

yeah that's definitely a positive

I don't know, it sort of blindsided me and considering everything that happened between Blanca/Elektra in S1 - the transition, the constant affirmation of being her only mother / only daughter etc - it just felt unrealistic that she would snap and become a sworn enemy of her House because she wanted a nicer apartment.

Like I'm sure there'll be another redemption somewhere down the S2 line but as a start-off point it felt like a big "... ok ignore her becoming rounded and rootable at the end of the first season" disclaimer

[Ammi]

...awwww, I think Elektra more than any other character fits that Hector Xtravaganza quote from the series, so well.../well her whole relationship with Blanca....



“Blood does not family make. Those are relatives. Family are those with whom you share your good, bad, and ugly, and still love one another in the end. Those are the ones you select.”


...Elektra so gloriously is the good, the bad and the ugly......but she’s never going to leave that arc because she’s essentially a good person, who needs her family...maybe more than anyone else does...she’s never going to be Miss Congeniality or that Dairy Queen......but she’s extremely lovable and always more good than bad/ugly and that always shines through.....

[Shaun]

Yeah I get that, and I know the community was, under all of the shade and the barbs, united... but considering in S1 she was chastised for not attending Act-Up protests and didn't really open up to anyone but Blanca, it still felt inorganic for her to react so violently and lash out. But then I suppose, given her circumstances, newly transitioned, abandoned by her boyfriend, everyone around her being fickle friends (those 2 gays who seem to switch houses every week ) it was natural to lash out.

I suppose without much historical knowledge of the houses and what they really got up to (this is all obviously a Hollywood reimagining of the scene, and glossing over some dubious shenanigans - although I believe S2 does touch on a plot point that is infamous in the Ball scene with Dorian Corey's mummified body) it's all hard to understand what was familial and sorority, and what was "you're in a different house than me? you're ugly and cheap"

[Ammi]

...I finished series 2 last night and have loved both series from the very top to the very toe......it’s funny with Elektra because it’s Blanca who is always portrayed as ‘the heart’...but I really think that she had very deep feelings for her guy...because she’s Elektra, she could have never loved someone who wasn’t rich, obviously.....and who couldn’t give her the luxury that she so desired but I still think she felt love also because she too has heart and loved him for who he was as well as what he gave in material ways...?...Whereas it became brutally obvious that he didn’t feel that depth with her, or indeed any depth at all...her genitalia was all there was, it was everything to him...Elektra as a person didn’t exist to him so I think the impact on her was huge with the reality and when he rejected her because becoming a woman was so much a part of who she was and who she needed him to see also...but in that community, so many were either loved or loathed, simply because of genitalia...


...anyways, in a time when we’re not able to express and demonstrate and celebrate family and friends in the same way as we’ve known all of our lives...when there have been so many restrictions...when illness and death has been so lonely for so many with no one to hold a hand...?..this has just been lovely and very meaningful for me...a 10/10 series.....

[Shaun]

finally plodding on with S2 and I would like to shut my ***** mouth because Elektra's been used sensationally again. I just watched episode 4 - 'Never Knew Love Like This Before' and oh god I ugly-cried... Angelica Ross is excellent in this series and I hadn't seen any spoilers so wasn't aware of that storyline.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Shaun

finally plodding on with S2 and I would like to shut my ***** mouth because Elektra's been used sensationally again. I just watched episode 4 - 'Never Knew Love Like This Before' and oh god I ugly-cried... Angelica Ross is excellent in this series and I hadn't seen any spoilers so wasn't aware of that storyline.

Yes this was the best episode, I never noticed Candy and then she became the star of the show.

[Jake.]

Started watching this, Damon’s dance routine at the end of the first episode

Genuine goosebumps when he got accepted in

[LaLaLand]

Can't wait to see where S3 goes...

[Jake.]

I’ve been watching it all night and I love it

I can’t @ how upsetting it is, though

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I’ve been watching it all night and I love it

I can’t @ how upsetting it is, though

Where are you up to?

There's a particular ep in S2 that just killed me. So, so sad. No spoilers but just be prepared!

[Jake.]

I’m on ep 6 of season 1! Even the parts I’d consider to be ‘not sad’ still manage to get me

[LaLaLand]

I know what you mean, it's a very emotional show. Good that it can shift from being so sad one moment to hilariously absurd and funny the next.

The soundtrack alone is incredible too - I need a physical release of it!