[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I agree, but the problem is, it would also make them a main target in a male prison, perhaps it is just best to keep the separated from other prisoners altogether

Although I imagine it could cause a ****storm, when it comes to prisons, separating trans people from men and women may be the safest option for them.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I agree, but the problem is, it would also make them a main target in a male prison, perhaps it is just best to keep the separated from other prisoners altogether

The problem then though is that it would be (rightly) considered cruel and unusual punishment; isolation is a form of torture. It would literally be better to just kill people than to sentence them to several years imprisonment in what would essentially be solitary confinement... people are permanently scarred mentally by a few months of it.

It starts to get very complicated very quickly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The problem then though is that it would be (rightly) considered cruel and unusual punishment; isolation is a form of torture. It would literally be better to just kill people than to sentence them to several years imprisonment in what would essentially be solitary confinement... people are permanently scarred mentally by a few months of it.

It starts to get very complicated very quickly.

Why would it be solitary confinement?

They have separated wings for specific purposes?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why would it be solitary confinement?

They have separated wings for specific purposes?

Well it assumes that there will be multiple transgender inmates in each prison in order not to have at least the possibility of isolation?

[jaxie]

The problem with this kind of thing isn't only the penis. Men are bigger and stronger than women. Even had he had the surgery he is still going to be bigger and stronger and capable of significant harm should tempers flare or should he have the motivation to do harm. It just isn't as simple as genital removal.

It doesn't matter if it's rare. Four women were still harmed by this person.

[Vicky.]

There should be no male people in the female population, and vice versa. Solitary, or a trans wing in a few prisons would be the solution, not putting people with penises (along with the general strength and size adantage that males would have over females) in with females. Is it really a surprise to people that putting a male person, who is in there for rape anyway, in with females ends like this?!

Come the **** on...

The alleged victim — an inmate with whom she had struck up a friendship — said the remand prisoner stood close to her and touched her arm while her erect penis was sticking out from the top of her trousers.

Honestly, sentences like this should not exist in reporting.

I also think transmen would not be safe in with the general male population. Even if they are post operative, its just too dangerous, and the current rules are totally wrong. In my opinion.

[Marsh.]

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Yep agree with both your points

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Yes because overcrowding isn't an issue for prisons..

Are you having a
bubble?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes because overcrowding isn't an issue for prisons..

Are you having a
bubble?

I don't seem to recall saying it wasn't.

Are you having a crackle?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Indeed. The current solution is just ridiculous and very dangerous. Putting a male rapist in a female prison ffs, and noone could predict how it would end, seemingly, or didn't care

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Didn't even notice this, wtf were they thinking?