[Dash Darington]

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

But his mother took him
to the police station

Men on doors
do not punch women like that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

Physical assault is never okay

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

She was actually protecting girls he had been harassing

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

No sympathy - whats wrong with you ?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

No sympathy - whats wrong with you ?

He should be allowed harass women in peace

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He should be allowed harass women in peace

O-U-C-H!

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She was actually protecting girls he had been harassing

Bull****. He wasn't within 10 feet of any girl when the aggressor got in his face. A man can't get in another man's face like that. Why should a woman expect to get away with it? Obviously it's not nice to see girls getting hit by guys, but the source of the problem is gross women thinking they have a license to get physically aggressive with men.

No sympathy. If you don't want to get punched, stop acting like you want to fight a man.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

No sympathy. She wanted to get in the guy's face and even continued to advance on him after she got hit the first time.

Knocking somebody unconscious is not an appropriate response to someone screaming in your face.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

Bull****. He wasn't within 10 feet of any girl when the aggressor got in his face. A man can't get in another man's face like that. Why should a woman expect to get away with it? Obviously it's not nice to see girls getting hit by guys, but the source of the problem is gross women thinking they have a license to get physically aggressive with men.

No sympathy. If you don't want to get punched, stop acting like you want to fight a man.

So you believe in women getting sexual harassed and rape d as long as nobody see's it?

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Physical assault is never okay

Precisely. Getting in someone's face like that is an act of assault. You don't have to make contact for it to be assault. Finally someone agrees with me. The woman should not have assaulted the man. Physical assault is never okay.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

Precisely. Getting in someone's face like that is an act of assault. You don't have to make contact for it to be assault. Finally someone agrees with me. The woman should not have assaulted the man. Physical assault is never okay.

So everytime a woman gets in your face you beat her up until she is out cold?

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Knocking somebody unconscious is not an appropriate response to someone screaming in your face.

It's overkill, but hardly an unforseeable response. If I got in a bigger man's face like that I'd definitely see that as a possible outcome. She wanted trouble, and she got it.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you believe in women getting sexual harassed and rape d as long as nobody see's it?

Originally Posted by Adam.

So everytime a woman gets in your face you beat her up until she is out cold?

If you can't think of a response that doesn't require you to deliberately misrepresent the opposing position, you are defeated.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

It's overkill, but hardly an unforseeable response. If I got in a bigger man's face like that I'd definitely see that as a possible outcome. She wanted trouble, and she got it.

The clue is in your description of him as "the bigger man". She pose no danger to him screaming her head off like a banshee.

His response was completely out of proportion.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

If you can't think of a response that doesn't require you to deliberately misrepresent the opposing position, you are defeated.

All i see you saying is that the women deserve to be knocked out cold.

Do you know she could have died from one of those punches? do you still see it as acceptable

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Adam.

All i see you saying is that the women deserve to be knocked out cold.

As previously stated, if you can't think of a response that doesn't require you to deliberately misrepresent the opposing position, you are defeated. You haven't seen me use the word "deserve."

Do you know she could have died from one of those punches? do you still see it as acceptable

I don't see any of this as acceptable. I appear to be the only person in the thread who would caution young women against engaging in this dangerous behaviour. If someone insists in putting themselves in harm's way they'll get no sympathy from me. If I had been there I would not have intervened.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The clue is in your description of him as "the bigger man". She pose no danger to him screaming her head off like a banshee.

His response was completely out of proportion.

She posed little physical danger to him, but she doesn't have the right to get in his face like that. The whole point of getting that close to him is the implied threat of physical violence.

His response absolutely was out of proportion. So was hers. She didn't like something he said, so she got in his face yelling and pointing her finger in his face. She wanted to get physically aggressive, ironically depending on the man's restraint and compassion to ensure her safety, while she sought to abuse him. What a monumentally stupid thing to do.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

She posed little physical danger to him, but she doesn't have the right to get in his face like that. The whole point of getting that close to him is the implied threat of physical violence.

His response absolutely was out of proportion. So was hers. She didn't like something he said, so she got in his face yelling and pointing her finger in his face. She wanted to get physically aggressive, ironically depending on the man's restraint and compassion to ensure her safety, while she sought to abuse him. What a monumentally stupid thing to do.

She posed no actual threat.

Hence the fact he was the one who knocked her out cold.

There is no excuse for his actions.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

I don't see any of this as acceptable. I appear to be the only person in the thread who would caution young women against engaging in this dangerous behaviour. If someone insists in putting themselves in harm's way they'll get no sympathy from me. If I had been there I would not have intervened.

I don't think anybody's defending the girl for being a gobby cow.

But you're defending the guy for his actions, which are indefensible.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She posed no actual threat.

Hence the fact he was the one who knocked her out cold.

There is no excuse for his actions.

She posed a physical threat, in addition to the lesser harm of harassing him, which she did actually inflict.

There is no excuse for her actions.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

She posed a physical threat.

No she didn't. Hence her being the one out cold on the floor.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think anybody's defending the girl for being a gobby cow.

People are defending her actions by claiming that she was acting as a defender of the other women present.

But you're defending the guy for his actions, which are indefensible.

Nope. I do sympathize with the no-win situation that the man is in when a woman gets physically aggressive, because he either has to allow himself to be abused or respond physically and have the aggressor treated as a victim simply because she's a woman. I haven't defended his actions. I simply have no sympathy for someone who picks a fight with someone bigger because she knows if he does anything she'll be treated as a victim and her target will be vilified.

It's interesting to note that she probably wouldn't have behaved like this in the first place if not for the expectation that any physical response by him would be met by sympathy for her (the aggressor), and condemnation for him. That sort of response actually encourages this type of behaviour.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No she didn't. Hence her being the one out cold on the floor.

Your reasoning skills are letting you down. Just because she has a lower capacity for violence doesn't mean she has no capacity for violence.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

Your reasoning skills are letting you down. Just because she has a lower capacity for violence doesn't mean she has no capacity for violence.

If she displayed this capacity for violence by trying to shoot the guy then more people might be in support of him. As it stands, the extent of the violence that she displayed was by standing in front of him and shouting at him. It doesn’t matter how hard you try to twist this story to try and justify his actions and to pass the blame on to the woman - the appropriate response to that is never to punch the person so hard that you could kill them.