[Niamh.]

Just to say though, this is all *If* this even happened, the story does seem a bit far fetched imo

[user104658]

I guess it's feasible that it really happened to her and that caused her to become depressed and take her own life. But then, as she vocally hated Muslims, it's also feasible that she was mentally unwell and that manifested firstly as her creating the story about the abduction and attack, and then later taking her life. Which to be honest seems more realistic to me. Especially as it states that she continued her job as normal next day, and it would be nearly impossible for most people to carry on doing so without seeming visibly distressed / in shock after an incident like that.

Though that's supposition and in the absence of an investigation / evidence, it's not really possible to say what has actually happened.

[Niamh.]

It's odd how even a thread about someone being kidnapped and raped by a gang comes back to being the womans fault.. not surprised really

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's odd how even a thread about someone being kidnapped and raped by a gang comes back to being the womans fault.. not surprised really

I'm not saying it's her fault at all. It's not gone over my head why something like rape was used as a weapon against a woman and I think it's a repugnant thing to do. I condemn those responsible and hope they receive the harshest sentence possible. However when a lot of my extended family and friends muslim I find it hard to a whole lot of sympathy for someone who would rather they were wiped out.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I'm not saying it's her fault at all. It's not gone over my head why something like rape was used as a weapon against a woman and I think it's a repugnant thing to do. I condemn those responsible and hope they receive the harshest sentence possible. However when a lot of my extended family and friends muslim I find it hard to a whole lot of sympathy for someone who would rather they were wiped out.

People are quick to disregard the lives of muslims as less important. Imagine if a muslim guy had said he wanted all white people wiped out by an atomic bomb.. right-wing trolls have said and done worse to muslims for simply existing.

[Vicky.]

What an odd story. I genuinely do not know what to think of this, but the raping as punishment for saying stuff is ****ing disgusting to be quite honest.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I'm not saying it's her fault at all. It's not gone over my head why something like rape was used as a weapon against a woman and I think it's a repugnant thing to do. I condemn those responsible and hope they receive the harshest sentence possible. However when a lot of my extended family and friends muslim I find it hard to a whole lot of sympathy for someone who would rather they were wiped out.

It works both ways though armand.kay, they also hate the Western world

Youtube video

There are loads of videos like this.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It works both ways though armand.kay, they also hate the Western world

Youtube video

There are loads of videos like this.

This isn't an us vs them situation where every single muslim wants to see the end the western world. Like I said I have muslim friends and family I don't really think they should be lumped in with radicles.

also theres loads of videos I can find of white people expressing hate towards people like me and you don't see me calling for a white genocide

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

This isn't an us vs them situation where every single muslim wants to see the end the western world. Like I said I have muslim friends and family I don't really think they should be lumped in with radicles.

also theres loads of videos I can find of white people expressing hate towards people like me and you don't see me calling for a white genocide

That's what I said armand.kay it works both ways, I have muslim friends too I think most of us have, it's a shame anyone hates anyone really,but there is a lot of it about.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

This isn't an us vs them situation where every single muslim wants to see the end the western world. Like I said I have muslim friends and family I don't really think they should be lumped in with radicles.

also theres loads of videos I can find of white people expressing hate towards people like me and you don't see me calling for a white genocide

Yes it certainly isn't and I don't in anyway shape or form agree with her views or what she said

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's odd how even a thread about someone being kidnapped and raped by a gang comes back to being the womans fault.. not surprised really

IKR. I hope half of them don't even realize what they are saying because the idea people are justifying physical violance and rape because of hate speech is just terrifying. Do we women really have such little value that words can justify hurting us?

For the record words do not ever justify or excuse doing physical harm to someone no matter how vile their rhetoric.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It works both ways though armand.kay, they also hate the Western world

Youtube video

There are loads of videos like this.

Those kinds of people don't represent all Muslims, let alone a signifcant % of the world's 1.8 billion muslims. Making such generalisations only worsens the divide the far-right seek to create.

Originally Posted by jaxie

IKR. I hope half of them don't even realize what they are saying because the idea people are justifying physical violance and rape because of hate speech is just terrifying. Do we women really have such little value that words can justify hurting us?

For the record words do not ever justify or excuse doing physical harm to someone no matter how vile their rhetoric.

Nobody in this thread has attempted to justify it.

& I disagree with your last part (bolded). For example, Hitler deserved a smack round the face for sure. As would anyone who holded similarly dangerous views

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Those kinds of people don't represent all Muslims, let alone a signifcant % of the world's 1.8 billion muslims. Making such generalisations only worsens the divide the far-right seek to create.



Nobody in this thread has attempted to justify it.

& I disagree with your last part (bolded). For example, Hitler deserved a smack round the face for sure. As would anyone who holded similarly dangerous views

Yep, its the wrong type of muslims

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yep, its the wrong type of muslims

If we can't differentiate between normal muslims just living their life and the odd weirdo extremists, we can't progress. i'm glad that you can make the distinction because it seems like some people cant lol

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Those kinds of people don't represent all Muslims, let alone a signifcant % of the world's 1.8 billion muslims. Making such generalisations only worsens the divide the far-right seek to create.



Nobody in this thread has attempted to justify it.

& I disagree with your last part (bolded). For example, Hitler deserved a smack round the face for sure. As would anyone who holded similarly dangerous views

Hitler was responsible for the death of somewhere in the region of 60 million people. There is no comparison possible between Hitler and someone else who talks hate but doesn't act on it.

[Kazanne]

She must have been absolutely terrified tbh,poor woman,imagine being killed by the very thing you despise.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So words make rape less bad, got it

No. I was just saying it personally makes me feel less sympathetic as opposed to someone who'd just been walking around living their life rather than spewing hate. That's all. It still isn't justified though.

Originally Posted by Withano

Not to play devils advocate.. but you’d surely find the story more sad if the victim was a woman that always showed upmost respect for muslims and was seen by their country as a lovely person

I mean... maybe it shouldnt have been said, but it is unfortunately true.

Yes, that's what I was saying. thank you.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

She must have been absolutely terrified tbh,poor woman,imagine being killed by the very thing you despise.

"Thing" - you mean muslims? like, I understand your anger at the rapist but this doesn't represent all muslims..

[Beso]

I think we should all take the ppv's advice and "leave willie alone"


Until the accusations and story is confirmed.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

PVV (party for freedom) member Willie Dille has tragically ended her own life after she was raped, assaulted and kidnapped by muslims, a plan orchestrated by her former colleague at PVV Arnoud van Doorn

she was well known for her hate towards muslims, she once stated that all muslims should be wiped out with an atomic bomb, so she was very controversial here in our dutch politics, same as PVV leader Geert Wilders

Willie Dille was 53 years old, she had 4 kids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Dille

http://www.dagelijksestandaard.nl/20...oord-gepleegd/

i can't say i am shocked about the rape and assault at her from muslims, since she had said many nasty things about them, which might've also triggered anger against her, but she was told to just tell the police and file charges against her abductors/rapists, but she didn't probably out of fear

Did she say those things after she was raped, or raped for saying those things..do we know?

[Scarlett.]

Regardless of her opinions, such a horrific thing to happen that I would not wish upon anyone.

[Nicky91]

an update: there will be no investigation, due to lack of solid leads of starting a investigation into this case, i think it's because Willie never filed charges against her attackers so there isn't anything about this now on paper, apart from her facebook message


this really feels very strange to me now either

[Livia]

I am disgusted that sympathy for a rape victim has to be quantified. I feel sympathy, but she hated Muslims, so... I care less.

Rape has been a despicable weapon of war since wars have been fought. And anyone who thinks they have slightly less sympathy for her because of her political views... well, that's quite disgusting. But not surprising.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am disgusted that sympathy for a rape victim has to be quantified. I feel sympathy, but she hated Muslims, so... I care less.

Rape has been a despicable weapon of war since wars have been fought. And anyone who thinks they have slightly less sympathy for her because of her political views... well, that's quite disgusting. But not surprising.

rapists and paedophiles are 2 of the lowest types of scum on this world


Rape is a nasty nasty weapon because you also can't find enough solid evidence for to make a solid strong case against your attacker


i feel so sad that there won't coming a investigation for this case, and that her attackers could just walk away without any punishment, that is a injustice but only if she filed charges against them then they could've had a investigation now with a likely outcome of them catching whoever responsible for this crime

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

rapists and paedophiles are 2 of the lowest types of scum on this world


Rape is a nasty nasty weapon because you also can't find enough solid evidence for to make a solid strong case against your attacker


i feel so sad that there won't coming a investigation for this case, and that her attackers could just walk away without any punishment, that is a injustice but only if she filed charges against them then they could've had a investigation now with a likely outcome of them catching whoever responsible for this crime

So, a right-winger is gang-raped by a bunch of Muslims... and there will be no investigation? Way to make the Right more powerful.