[DouglasS]

I mean what she said is true

[Saph]

I get her point tbh

but she should've known she would get dragged for posting a list of only women of colour

[Saph]

perched for a new album

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Saph

I get her point tbh

but she should've known she would get dragged for posting a list of only women of colour

but she didn't she also said Ariana and Camila.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by MB.

So she announced on Instagram today that she's releasing a new album in September. The thing is, nobody's talking about it because in the same post, she managed to throw basically every successful woman of color in music (Beyonce, Nicki, Cardi, Doja Cat, even Kehlani for some reason) under the bus, with a healthy dose of slut-shaming on the side She should have never dated that cop in the first place

I mean. That’s not what was said at all and she had a point.


God forbid getting on Beyoncé and Nicki’s fanbase wrong side though.

[MB.]

"There is no place in feminism for me, a glamorous white woman" is not a valid point, no

[Wizard.]

She wasn't wrong though

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by MB.

"There is no place in feminism for me, a glamorous white woman" is not a valid point, no

She said "a glamorous person" though.
Is this all people got from it? She made much more deeper points than that, but some people out there only see the race thing.

She was not having it anymore and had to speak her truth. A lot (if not most) of her songs are about bad relationships either on the giving or receiving end...and yet people think she's making abuse "fun" or "glamorous". She is speaking the truth of what so many women live out there and don't have a voice.

She's not doing what Nicky, Beyonce etc do and from that post I don't see direct shade towards them, but mainly towards the fandoms or people who think they are "woke" and think that what she's doing is wrong. And tbh she's singing about deeper issues than most of the artists she mentionned.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MB.

"There is no place in feminism for me, a glamorous white woman" is not a valid point, no

To be fair, some weirdos do deride what they call "White Feminism", which is pretty stupid.

Activist Rachel Cargle has built a brand — and a business — by calling out racial injustices within feminism
‘I Refuse to Listen to White Women Cry’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...thin-feminism/

When Feminism Is White Supremacy in Heels
From tone policing to whitesplaining, the liberal white women's feminism is more toxic than they realize, explains Rachel Cargle.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...hite-feminism/

I'm not saying that Rachel creature is representative, but she's not the only one to karp on about such things...

[Saph]

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Shaun]

I think it's clumsily worded. She may have meant that those artists are free to express themselves how they wish and she wants to be able to do the same (despite... no one objecting? You were just Grammy nominated, and named the best album of the year by tonnes of publications, gal?)

She had some critics in her early/middle career but at that time she was just releasing the same dreary old **** every album, and was being presented as this breakthrough YouTube alternative star when she had just as much label cash being thrown at her as your Katy Perrys and Gagas at the time now she's matured and honed her craft.

The whole post does just come off as incredibly whiny and attention-seeking, though.

[Samm]

yeah idc, she maybe should have worded it better, but this whole cancel culture ****! continues to be annoying

[montblanc]

ignorant woman

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by MB.

"There is no place in feminism for me, a glamorous white woman" is not a valid point, no

this

[Amy Jade]

I think this was incredibly dumb of her and it comes across like she's very much up her own arse and thinks she's better than others.

However, the cancel culture is so, so tiresome.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Fetch The Bolt Cutters

[Jake.]

I do just think that it’s a case of awful wording but my god does she come off as a whiny ****.

[Wizard.]

I mean, sometimes you get mad and write dumb stuff and then cringe and regret the next day she's just human.

[Captain.Remy]

She apparently responded to the backlash.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tatianatenr...?origin=web-hf

[Jake.]

She should have made that clear in her original post

[lewis111]

Her argument just doesn’t have any validity because most of the people she mentioned get hated on all the time. Does she think there was universal acclaim and no backlash when Nicki released Anaconda etc.?
Women who release any kind of sexual or edgy music are sadly almost always gonna be shamed I’m not sure why she thinks it’s just her?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by lewis111

Her argument just doesn’t have any validity because most of the people she mentioned get hated on all the time. Does she think there was universal acclaim and no backlash when Nicki released Anaconda etc.?
Women who release any kind of sexual or edgy music are sadly almost always gonna be shamed I’m not sure why she thinks it’s just her?

I didn't take it as her being shamed for being sexual, more that she's classy and elegant and gets less acclaim than "trash" ?

[Tom4784]

If she releases something as good as NFR again, she can say what she wants.

[Ross.]

Mess at there being an album announcement amongst all of this