[Greg!]

Thank you gorgeous ladies for reassuring me. If she tries getting sassy or take disciplinary action I'll know exactly what to say in my defence!

[Denver]

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

"An employer should give an employee who works an irregular shift pattern reasonable notice of their hours. Normally this would be included in the contract of employment and the standard notice period is around 7 days."

It was only 3 days notice. Fair enough if I said I could do it but I didnt.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Greg!

"An employer should give an employee who works an irregular shift pattern reasonable notice of their hours. Normally this would be included in the contract of employment and the standard notice period is around 7 days."

It was only 3 days notice. Fair enough if I said I could do it but I didnt.

Is that from your contract? My employer can change it without permission up to the end of day on the sunday before

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

The issue isn't the rota being changed, it's the procedure with which these changes are made.

A manager changing a rota and not bothering to make sure her staff are aware of said changes has no leg to stand on.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The issue isn't the rota being changed, it's the procedure with which these changes are made.

A manager changing a rota and not bothering to make sure her staff are aware of said changes has no leg to stand on.

Especially when the rotas are done 2 months in advance tbh. You cannot do the rotas that far in advance and then expect people to change their plans on a couple of days notice, ontop of this not actually speak to them to check its ok, just assume it is. She took for advantage that you would drop everything to cover a shift of someone else who decided they wanted the day off. It sounds like. I would be tempted to if she goes off on one about it, say she should have done it herself. Given from my experience, managers do **** all. Indeed when I was promoted to superviser the first thing I was told was that there is not much work to do and you can just sit in the 'office' (this was in burger King so there was not an office as such, just a pokey little room )

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel sorry for the manager if that is your attitude, i really do

[Babayaro.]

Where do you work?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ruth Davidson's PA

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ruth Davidson's PA

Hmm absolutely NOT! Would never betray nicola queen of Scots

And Marc I'm a lifeguard (ikr what a scream lol). I'm supposed to be the only one on which is why I feel so guilty/stressed cos some random from reception is having to cover for me hehe!

[bots]

i think you should offer to resign, it's the only course of action to take for missing/trashing the email

[Vicky.]

No you are absolutely not in the wrong and your manager sounds like a pain in the arse. She can't just change shifts pretty much last minute and expect people to cancel their plans that they made for a day off. And if she wanted to change the shift..she needs to ASK first which would be best in person, but on the phone is also acceptable if you haven't been in. Email would be a silly option, but ok I guess IF she did it AFTER you replied saying it was ok.

[Shaun]

I think the answer is 'yes' too, sorry

[Vicky.]

I don't see how anyone can say yes? Email is absolutely not a good way to tell people about shift changes. If people emailed me stuff short notice, I probably wouldn't get it as I only check my emails every few weeks Surely, she should have known he didn't get it due to him not replying..at which stage she should have rang, rather than assuming it was fine.

[Shaun]

If the email was yesterday I think it'd be fair enough but there's literally 4 days notice

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

If the email was yesterday I think it'd be fair enough but there's literally 4 days notice

But he hasn't had 4 days notice since he didn't see the email?

At our place a verbal exchange must be made with any last minute changes to make sure people are aware, whether over the phone or in person.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

At our place a verbal exchange must be made with any last minute changes to make sure people are aware, whether over the phone or in person.

And if the answer is no, that should be accepted too. Rather than you being bitched at none stop about it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And if the answer is no, that should be accepted too. Rather than you being bitched at none stop about it.

Oh yeah, definitely. At ours if a rota is changed or they need to switch shifts around with less than two weeks notice then they need to actually get the permission from everyone affected and they're within their right to decline as they've already made plans around the original rota.

[Vicky.]

Yeah, but..she didn't get a reply to the email so surely she should have rang to tell him, rather than just assume it was fine and not bother ringing til this morning

[Crimson Dynamo]

This isnt Unilever its a swimming pool and i take it its a line manager on like 17K a year?


lol

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

This isnt Unilever its a swimming pool and i take it its a line manager on like 17K a year?


lol

Well, it doesn't matter where or what the job is.

If you're giving people rotas so far in advance, you need to do your job and get confirmation when those same rotas get changed last minute.

[Vicky.]

Makes no difference where it is, managers should actually get confirmation that people can cover shifts on their day off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Makes no difference where it is, managers should actually get confirmation that people can cover shifts on their day off

its probably a 22 year old girl who does not know her arse from her elbow and has never been trained in anything in her life?

I am sure that she will now realise that if she does not hear back from an email she better call or message, especially with staff who are difficult..

all part of life's great adventure

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its probably a 22 year old girl who does not know her arse from her elbow and has never been trained in anything in her life?

I am sure that she will now realise that if she does not hear back from an email she better call or message, especially with staff who are difficult..

all part of life's great adventure

Hopefully. Surely thats one of the first bloody things you get told. Though maybe, whoever trained her, would think that it goes without saying that if you want someone to work on their day off...you need to actually speak to them about it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its probably a 22 year old girl who does not know her arse from her elbow and has never been trained in anything in her life?

I am sure that she will now realise that if she does not hear back from an email she better call or message, especially with staff who are difficult..

all part of life's great adventure

Well, if that's the case, she shouldn't have the job to begin with.

It's something you should kind of know in order to obtain the job.

BUT, such is the world. People have jobs all over the place they don't even know the first thing about.