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Greg! · 15-10-2018, 10:30 AM

Thank you gorgeous ladies for reassuring me. If she tries getting sassy or take disciplinary action I'll know exactly what to say in my defence!

Denver · 15-10-2018, 10:32 AM

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

Christmas Dynasnow · 15-10-2018, 10:33 AM

I feel sorry for the manager if that is your attitude, i really do

Greg! · 15-10-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

"An employer should give an employee who works an irregular shift pattern reasonable notice of their hours. Normally this would be included in the contract of employment and the standard notice period is around 7 days."

It was only 3 days notice. Fair enough if I said I could do it but I didnt.

Denver · 15-10-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

"An employer should give an employee who works an irregular shift pattern reasonable notice of their hours. Normally this would be included in the contract of employment and the standard notice period is around 7 days."

It was only 3 days notice. Fair enough if I said I could do it but I didnt.

Is that from your contract? My employer can change it without permission up to the end of day on the sunday before

Babayaro. · 15-10-2018, 11:06 AM

Where do you work?

Christmas Dynasnow · 15-10-2018, 11:16 AM

Ruth Davidson's PA

Greg! · 15-10-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ruth Davidson's PA

Hmm absolutely NOT! Would never betray nicola queen of Scots

And Marc I'm a lifeguard (ikr what a scream lol). I'm supposed to be the only one on which is why I feel so guilty/stressed cos some random from reception is having to cover for me hehe!

bots · 15-10-2018, 02:21 PM

i think you should offer to resign, it's the only course of action to take for missing/trashing the email

Scarlett. · 15-10-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Of course you are in the wrong. She sent you notification of the change and you ignored it.

I mean she clearly had the number, why didn't she ring him to notify him of the shift change instead of sending an email, calling him would have ensured he got the message, even sending a text would have been a better choice.

Vicky. · 15-10-2018, 02:26 PM

No you are absolutely not in the wrong and your manager sounds like a pain in the arse. She can't just change shifts pretty much last minute and expect people to cancel their plans that they made for a day off. And if she wanted to change the shift..she needs to ASK first which would be best in person, but on the phone is also acceptable if you haven't been in. Email would be a silly option, but ok I guess IF she did it AFTER you replied saying it was ok.

Tinsel Toes · 15-10-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan.

She can't be pressed she should have asked you in person not through an email

Absolutely she took it for granted and came unstuck - manage better and get things confirmed .

Its her fault entirely.

Matthew. · 15-10-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I know he is babes but it just got me riled cos I was v stressed at the time!

yeah just ignore him, he thinks he’s being funny but he isn’t doing a very good job. and regarding your boss, i’m pretty sure you won’t get into trouble. don’t worry about it

Shaun · 15-10-2018, 02:49 PM

I think the answer is 'yes' too, sorry

Vicky. · 15-10-2018, 02:58 PM

I don't see how anyone can say yes? Email is absolutely not a good way to tell people about shift changes. If people emailed me stuff short notice, I probably wouldn't get it as I only check my emails every few weeks

Surely, she should have known he didn't get it due to him not replying..at which stage she should have rang, rather than assuming it was fine.

Shaun · 15-10-2018, 03:11 PM

If the email was yesterday I think it'd be fair enough but there's literally 4 days notice

Vicky. · 15-10-2018, 03:20 PM

Yeah, but..she didn't get a reply to the email so surely she should have rang to tell him, rather than just assume it was fine and not bother ringing til this morning

Marsh. · 15-10-2018, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she sent an email to update you, if you miss that its your fault.

No it's not. It's the person who has made the changes to the rota's responsibility to get confirmation that the relevant people have been notified.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you missed the email its your fault. I expect if she called you and you missed the call you would be moaning that "normally I get an email"

?

Well I imagine any manager with a single bit of common sense would leave a voicemail and a request to be called back which, if it doesn't happen, is a pretty big indicator the person is not aware of any changes.

Marsh. · 15-10-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

If your contract say your rota can be changed then you have no leg to stand on

The issue isn't the rota being changed, it's the procedure with which these changes are made.

A manager changing a rota and not bothering to make sure her staff are aware of said changes has no leg to stand on.

Vicky. · 15-10-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

The issue isn't the rota being changed, it's the procedure with which these changes are made.

A manager changing a rota and not bothering to make sure her staff are aware of said changes has no leg to stand on.

Especially when the rotas are done 2 months in advance tbh. You cannot do the rotas that far in advance and then expect people to change their plans on a couple of days notice, ontop of this not actually speak to them to check its ok, just assume it is. She took for advantage that you would drop everything to cover a shift of someone else who decided they wanted the day off. It sounds like. I would be tempted to if she goes off on one about it, say she should have done it herself. Given from my experience, managers do **** all. Indeed when I was promoted to superviser the first thing I was told was that there is not much work to do and you can just sit in the 'office' (this was in burger King so there was not an office as such, just a pokey little room )

Marsh. · 15-10-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

If the email was yesterday I think it'd be fair enough but there's literally 4 days notice

But he hasn't had 4 days notice since he didn't see the email?

At our place a verbal exchange must be made with any last minute changes to make sure people are aware, whether over the phone or in person.

Vicky. · 15-10-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

At our place a verbal exchange must be made with any last minute changes to make sure people are aware, whether over the phone or in person.

And if the answer is no, that should be accepted too. Rather than you being bitched at none stop about it.

Marsh. · 15-10-2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

And if the answer is no, that should be accepted too. Rather than you being bitched at none stop about it.

Oh yeah, definitely. At ours if a rota is changed or they need to switch shifts around with less than two weeks notice then they need to actually get the permission from everyone affected and they're within their right to decline as they've already made plans around the original rota.