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thesheriff443 · 08-11-2018, 10:34 AM

An action creats an action, society is breaking down, we the death penalty back to give normal people hope that you can’t do what you like to others.

thesheriff443 · 08-11-2018, 10:43 AM

Had a good chat with a retired prison officer who worked with grade a prisoners,

He was saying once they had a dangerous sex offender who due for parole, the did a prison search and found notes detailing plans for his next crime involving a 14 year old boy raping torturing him and rapping him in barbed wire they took what they found to the govnor but no action was taken.

The prisoner was released and a month later he committed the crime word for word.

MTVN · 08-11-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Had a good chat with a retired prison officer who worked with grade a prisoners,

He was saying once they had a dangerous sex offender who due for parole, the did a prison search and found notes detailing plans for his next crime involving a 14 year old boy raping torturing him and rapping him in barbed wire they took what they found to the govnor but no action was taken.

The prisoner was released and a month later he committed the crime word for word.

What's that got to do with this thread

thesheriff443 · 08-11-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

What's that got to do with this thread

It’s real life and a example of the prison system not working.

People know how to use the system, I’m only 15 so the adult is responsible.

15 year olds are killing and raping.

Crimson Dynamo · 08-11-2018, 11:34 AM

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

thesheriff443 · 08-11-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

I think I need to continue with you. Lol

hijaxers · 08-11-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

Same

user104658 · 08-11-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

Are you though LT? And is just "OK" what we should be striving for in life

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Jigs · 08-11-2018, 12:41 PM

Kid was almost certainly in the wrong here, despite what we are shown

Young people nowadays know to rein it in when a camera is on them. The kid was fully aware the camera was out and knew to change his stance on the situation to save face when this video was inevitably put on social media. The driver wouldn't have reacted like that for nothing and knowing how kids are nowadays I can safely assume the kid was probably being a lil tosser

user104658 · 08-11-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigs

Kid was almost certainly in the wrong here, despite what we are shown

Young people nowadays know to rein it in when a camera is on them. The kid was fully aware the camera was out and knew to change his stance on the situation to save face when this video was inevitably put on social media. The driver wouldn't have reacted like that for nothing and knowing how kids are nowadays I can safely assume the kid was probably being a lil tosser

He probably is and I haven't seen anyone try to argue that this was some poor innocent little soul. It doesn't change the fact that a grown man threatening a teenager with "punching their face in" is unacceptable and a stupid / thuggish thing to do. It's also not big or clever... in fact, in my opinion, it makes the guy look pretty pathetic.

In my experience, when kids / teens are acting like this, usually trying to show off, all it takes is a certain look / laughing it off to make them feel suddenly self conscious and a bit daft. They WANT an angry reaction, that's the whole point

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Beso · 08-11-2018, 01:47 PM

bus drivers are just failed bouncers, they all have a disgusting attitude towards passengers..

a passenger should have got up and lamped the bully.

user104658 · 08-11-2018, 02:42 PM

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bus drivers are just failed bouncers, they all have a disgusting attitude towards passengers..

a passenger should have got up and lamped the bully.

They're 50/50 around here. I have to get the late bus every Saturday because I'm always working but eldest has stage school on a Sat so they need the car... Some of the drivers are great / friendly / occasionally let me on for free. It's the last bus of the day and I get off at the last stop... Usually the only person on it. However, some of them seem to be pissed off that they have a passenger at all

. I suspect maybe they just skip the last leg of the journey and head straight back to depot otherwise and I've ruined their plans. Well sorry bud, it's no excuse for being rude

. Especially when as far as I can tell I'm one of the only people in the area actually paying a cash bus fare, with everyone else being on their over-60's bus pass

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Ramsay · 08-11-2018, 02:43 PM

I'm sure there's more to it than what we're shown but i can't imagine there was any reason to call him a fat boy and put his hands on the kid

user104658 · 08-11-2018, 02:46 PM

To play devil's advocate on the thread, bus drivers do take a bit of abuse and I'd guess this driver had been harassed by a few passengers already and this kid just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back. Its still not OK though. Smack of him deciding to take out his frustration on a kid who is clearly much smaller than him... I doubt he'd have been out of his cab so quickly if it was some angry big bloke in his 40's mouthing off. Not a good look, really.

It would be like me having a bad day with the rougher customers and then snapping at Wee Betty for taking too long to remember the numbers she wants for her 49's.

Beso · 08-11-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To play devil's advocate on the thread, bus drivers do take a bit of abuse and I'd guess this driver had been harassed by a few passengers already and this kid just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back. Its still not OK though. Smack of him deciding to take out his frustration on a kid who is clearly much smaller than him... I doubt he'd have been out of his cab so quickly if it was some angry big bloke in his 40's mouthing off. Not a good look, really.

It would be like me having a bad day with the rougher customers and then snapping at Wee Betty for taking too long to remember the numbers she wants for her 49's.

I love the 49s' its my most profitable bookies experience atm

Tom4784 · 08-11-2018, 02:49 PM

Both are in the wrong but the driver more so for forgetting he is a grown ass man and acting like a child. Embarrassing behaviour from him, he shouldn't work in public facing roles if he can only exacerbate situations and get physical rather than diffuse situations.

He would have been in the right if he only remembered that he was the adult in this situation.

Tom4784 · 08-11-2018, 02:50 PM

As TS said, he wouldn't have tried that with another man who would have likely fought back if he tried to shove them about. Just a weak bully with an immature mind.

Withano · 08-11-2018, 03:07 PM

Well, the boy called him a prick so obviously the bus driver is allowed to threaten him and aggressively push him.

Christ.

Why are we debating this, he should be charged with assault... he should also grow a pair, a child calling you a name shouldnt make you react this way.

RileyH · 08-11-2018, 03:10 PM

Good on the bus driver

user104658 · 08-11-2018, 04:13 PM

The ONLY time it's considered acceptable to use physical force is in physical self defence. This is a fact when it comes to legality, and also my strong opinion when it comes to morality. The latter is up for debate but the former I'm afraid is just not; putting your hands on someone for calling you names is assault. It's not a grey area. Whether or not someone is CHARGED with assault for it would depend on if injury was caused, provocation would be taken into account, and so would past conduct. But it's still assault. The bus driver would most likely only be warned not to do it in this case - if he's previously clean. If he makes a habit of it hell end up being charged. Because it isn't legal.

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Crimson Dynamo · 08-11-2018, 04:25 PM

In my day the conductor (yes an actual conductor) would have booted the brat off and given him a thud around the lug (and more if the conductor had been a man)