[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was filmed being led away though shouting Allalhu Akbar, of course he may be mentally ill etc etc, but the bottom line is random knife attacks on strangers wasn't that common or common at all before ISIS, and even if he isn't a terrorist per se, it was a terrorist inspired attack

Yes but making a distinction between an organised terrorist attack, and a random act of personal violence prompted by seeing or "copying" terrorist attacks, is actually quite important on a wider sociological level.

E.g. I believe the first widely publicised act of "vehicle terrorism" (ramming a van into a crowd) was carried out by a Muslim, but has also been done by white supremacists since then. You wouldn't call the white supremacist attacks "Muslim terrorism" because they "got the idea from Muslim terrorism" and this should apply across the board.

Was this attacker actually doing it in the name of his god? Was it an attack planned and prompted by a larger group? Or was it an unplanned violent psychotic outburst and "that's what you shout when you do this stuff"?

In terms of the media, the latter is still dubbed an "act of terrorism" and to be pedantic it obviously is one, but I personally think its vital to make the distinction between true, planned, network-based acts of Islamic terrorism and random lone killers. ISIS will claim anything at all as "theirs" once its done, even if they had no prior knowledge of the individual at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was filmed being led away though shouting Allalhu Akbar, of course he may be mentally ill etc etc, but the bottom line is random knife attacks on strangers wasn't that common or common at all before ISIS, and even if he isn't a terrorist per se, it was a terrorist inspired attack

Find myself agreeing with Cherie again. One of the witnesses was a reporter who said he'd covered enough of this kind of thing to know what it was. And it was a terrorist attack carried out by an Islamist. And if he is mentally ill then he's the perfect recruit for IS. So I think he is unquestionably a terrorist; he carried out a terrorist attack in the name of a terrorist group.

[arista]

[Manchester Victoria station stabbings suspect
held under Mental Health Act
The 25-year-old suspect is being
assessed by specialist medical staff
over the incident,
which is being treated as terror related.]

https://news.sky.com/story/mancheste...h-act-11596556

[smudgie]

Hopefully they will all make a good recovery.
So many ruddy nutters out there, terrorists or not.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

allowing large numbers of immigrants to practice their fake imported cult/superstition (that is unreformed) behind closed doors in purpose built buildings and many of them attempting to circumvent UK law is a recipe for disaster

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

allowing large numbers of immigrants to practice their fake imported cult/superstition (that is unreformed) behind closed doors in purpose built buildings and many of them attempting to circumvent UK law is a recipe for disaster

I've often thought that mosques should have moles in them, to ensure they're keeping in order.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Open your heart to understand him? Where on earth did I suggest that? What I think is important to understand is how big terrorist groups actually are. Were you actually implying there that I was sympathising with a murderer?