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Niamh. · 08-03-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Bollocks being what?

Passing someone's details to the police on the grounds of being tasteless? Crimes against gaming?

No wonder women struggle to be taken seriously with bollocks like that being thrown around.

"Women struggle to be taken seriously" really Marsh?

Marsh. · 08-03-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

"Women struggle to be taken seriously" really Marsh?

Well it's International Women's Day Niamh and that means us mere males can't take part in a discussion.

The kind of attitude that people ridicule feminism for. Really doesn't help the "cause".

Niamh. · 08-03-2019, 02:40 PM

I do think games like that should not be allowed to be sold though. Serious question to those who think (even if they dislike the idea) that it's censorship, would you have the same opinion if it were a game about Paedophiles on the prowl raping children?

Scarlett. · 08-03-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I do think games like that should not be allowed to be sold though. Serious question to those who think (even if they dislike the idea) that it's censorship, would you have the same opinion if it were a game about Paedophiles on the prowl raping children?

They definitely should be banned IMO, it crosses a line

Niamh. · 08-03-2019, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia.

They definitely should be banned IMO, it crosses a line

Absolutely agree. Oh hang are you talking about both or just the child example?

Scarlett. · 08-03-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Absolutely agree. Oh hang are you talking about both or just the child example?

The whole concept of games like this, I'm not saying games shouldn't reference rape, as part of a story, but depicting it, or having the players engage in it is beyond a line that shouldn't be crossed

Cherie · 08-03-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia.

The whole concept of games like this, I'm not saying games shouldn't reference rape, as part of a story, but depicting it, or having the players engage in it is beyond a line that shouldn't be crossed

Agree that is the nub of the issue here

user104658 · 08-03-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia.

The whole concept of games like this, I'm not saying games shouldn't reference rape, as part of a story, but depicting it, or having the players engage in it is beyond a line that shouldn't be crossed

I was mulling this over earlier and wondering how to address it considering that I *don't* think depictions of sexual assault should be banned from games; mostly because I respect gaming as an on-par storytelling medium to books and movies and there are obvious reasons for telling those stories.

The solution I came up with, is that it should be treated like how Australia treats drugs when it comes to games classification. You can depict drug use in a game, you can have junkies etc., but you cannot depict drug use positively. i.e. if your character can take drugs it has to negatively affect them... and things like "Psycho" and "Jet" in Fallout aren't allowed, because it's drug use that enhances your characters abilities and thus can be seen to be glorifying drug use.

I feel like similar rules should apply to rape. Depictions of sexual assault should be allowed, but never as something that could ever be considered "positive" or an objective.

Also just to add to someone saying male rape wouldn't be allowed; there is actually an obscure side-mission in RDR2 where it is HEAVILY implied that your character has been drugged and sexually assaulted. I believe there's a similar thing in one of the early Fallout games, also. So we do get some equality there

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Tom4784 · 08-03-2019, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I do think games like that should not be allowed to be sold though. Serious question to those who think (even if they dislike the idea) that it's censorship, would you have the same opinion if it were a game about Paedophiles on the prowl raping children?

I wouldn't care if it was never sold, I dislike censorship as a concept as I said before but it's not a hill I'll die on unless, as Cherie suggested, it becomes a crime to depict difficult subject matter just because that's slippery af and could lead to silencing important conversations.

I don't think the game ever will be sold on any legitimate platforms so I don't think it's something to worry about and there's nothing to be done about selling it on illegitimate platforms which would have likely been done even if it was banned. As it stands, it's basically already banned for all intents and purposes if no real platform will host it.

Cherie · 08-03-2019, 02:59 PM

this 'game' bears no resemblance at all to a well crafted movie with rape or murder as part of the story line, I dont have an issue with COD type shooting games as it is based on defeating the enemy which kids have played since the dawn of time ...but a game where the idea to move on to the next level is to rape innocent women, no sorry, that is taking artistic licence too far

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 03:01 PM

Yeah, its bad enough that raping women tends to be just..there in many videogames. But its generally a side product, something you CAN do but could avoid.

This game..is literally about raping, thats how you play it. The creator is dodgy. I don't think the police should say anything however if I knew him IRL I would avoid like the plague if he thinks this kind of thing is acceptable and/or entertaining.

Scarlett. · 08-03-2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah, its bad enough that raping women tends to be just..there in many videogames. But its generally a side product, something you CAN do but could avoid.

This game..is literally about raping, thats how you play it. The creator is dodgy. I don't think the police should say anything however if I knew him IRL I would avoid like the plague if he thinks this kind of thing is acceptable and/or entertaining.

I've not come across any games in my 25 years of games that give this option

There have been these small indie edgelord side projects here and there, but rape is a BIG nono in gaming

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 03:19 PM

OK guess I was wrong then..I don't play videogames at all (except for sonic, and abes odyssey

) so can only really go off what I hear from those who do play them

Tom4784 · 08-03-2019, 03:04 PM

When dealing with difficult subject matter, there has to be a reason for it and it must be handled delicately and it certainly shouldn't be a gameplay mechanic.

Tom4784 · 08-03-2019, 03:08 PM

Yeah, rape and sexual abuse as a whole is pretty rare in video games. I can't think of many examples of it in gaming, I'm pretty sure the closest thing I can think of is Life is Strange but it's part of the story and I think it's presented in a way that's no different to how a TV show would do it since the game presents itself like a TV show.

Matthew. · 08-03-2019, 04:16 PM

What kind of sick **** would want to play a game like that

user104658 · 08-03-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew.

What kind of sick **** would want to play a game like that

The majority (now that it's gained notoriety) will be people simply looking to be "edgy" by being able to say that they've played it. Mostly teens and young adults and maybe LT.

Beso · 08-03-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The majority (now that it's gained notoriety) will be people simply looking to be "edgy" by being able to say that they've played it. Mostly teens and young adults and maybe LT.

Dezzy plays violent games.

user104658 · 08-03-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Dezzy plays violent games.

Well so do I, I really don't think that's relevant.

Beso · 08-03-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well so do I, I really don't think that's relevant.

Was your LT comment?...

Or can I not laugh along?

arista · 09-03-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Dezzy plays violent games.

Yes it Relaxes him

Crimson Dynamo · 08-03-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The majority (now that it's gained notoriety) will be people simply looking to be "edgy" by being able to say that they've played it. Mostly teens and young adults and maybe LT.

i was researching for a book