[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

...if this is true, you have literally seriously helped my life.

I guess it also would depend on 100% knowing Gavs not sleeping around like, which while I trust him, leaving my health depending on him like that seems a bit daft..

Well there is always that. You could just do abstinence though Vicky, Jesus would approve. It's why he invented STI's in the first place. To reduce sin.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well there is always that. You could just do abstinence though Vicky, Jesus would approve. It's why he invented STI's in the first place. To reduce sin.

Well..after 12 years together, 2 kids, a health condition or two and just general tiredness, tbf we pretty much abstain anyway.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

...if this is true, you have literally seriously helped my life.

I guess it also would depend on 100% knowing Gavs not sleeping around like, which while I trust him, leaving my health depending on him like that seems a bit daft..

Are you really going not going to have test because someone on a reality forum told you not to

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are you really going not going to have test because someone on a reality forum told you not to

Well that would be stupid but it's not a secret; I'm sure Vicky will look into it (and the research and outcomes are readily available for anyone who wants to check).

The HPV vaccine exists for a reason. It's to prevent cervical cancer; not to prevent warts.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well that would be stupid but it's not a secret; I'm sure Vicky will look into it (and the research and outcomes are readily available for anyone who wants to check).

The HPV vaccine exists for a reason. It's to prevent cervical cancer; not to prevent warts.

It is not 100 per cent effective, just like any other vaccine though.


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cervical-cancer/causes/

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are you really going not going to have test because someone on a reality forum told you not to

...erm, I may come across daft sometimes but no obviously not. But that was new info I had not heard so would look into it, and ask professionals. Was what I meant

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

...erm, I may come across daft sometimes but no obviously not. But that was new info I had not heard so would look into it, and ask professionals. Was what I meant

should bloody hope so

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hello, my name is TS and today I'll be mansplaining vagina cancer.

*ahem*

If you and your partner have an HPV test and it's clear, you don't need smear testing unless you change partners (or suspect / find out your current one is cheating). The biopsies that are routinely carried out when abnormal cells (which usually turn out to be nothing) are found actually increase cancer risk themselves.

If you regularly change sexual partners / have multiple sexual partners then obviously regular testing is advisable. Otherwise, the odds of getting cervical cancer without having HPV are minuscule.

You're welcome, and enjoy your genitals.

*beep bop boop*

well beep bop boop, I hate to break it to you but other things can grow in your cervix as well, like polyps which are better dealt with and removed rather than left in situ and also

Nearly all cervical cancers are caused by infection with certain types of HPV.

so not quite 100 per cent unless you think the NHS are rolling out this type of screening just for laughs

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well beep bop boop, I hate to break it to you but other things can grow in your cervix as well, like polyps which are better dealt with and removed rather than left in situ and also

Nearly all cervical cancers are caused by infection with certain types of HPV.

so not quite 100 per cent unless you think the NHS are rolling out this type of screening just for laughs

Yes but the rate is far less than practically any other cancer, and we don't routinely screen every part of the body for cancer, we only keep an eye out for the common ones (i.e. breast cancer, testicular cancer, cervical cancer if you have HPV).

Basically, there's no more need to go for the test if you don't have HPV than there is any other rare cancer (which functionally means, no need). The ratio of false-positives (abnormal cells that are not cancer) vs actual cancer found is high enough that the invasive procedures (which increase cancer risk) actually make it MORE likely that you'll get cancer with screening than without, if you don't have HPV.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes but the rate is far less than practically any other cancer, and we don't routinely screen every part of the body for cancer, we only keep an eye out for the common ones (i.e. breast cancer, testicular cancer, cervical cancer if you have HPV).

Basically, there's no more need to go for the test if you don't have HPV than there is any other rare cancer (which functionally means, no need). The ratio of false-positives (abnormal cells that are not cancer) vs actual cancer found is high enough that the invasive procedures (which increase cancer risk) actually make it MORE likely that you'll get cancer with screening than without, if you don't have HPV.

I beg to differ I know someone who went for a routine smear and a cancerous polyp which are normally benign was picked up, I think what you are writing is extremely dangerous, yes we are not routinely screened for many cancers, although bowel cancer is one that is one the way for over 50s, so and hopefully more screening will be rolled out not less Its interesting that you know so much more than health professionals who trained for many years in their profession

[Liam-]

Question, why can’t women under 25 have them? I mean, cervical cancer isn’t age restricted so younger women just have to wait until they’re diagnosed?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Question, why can’t women under 25 have them? I mean, cervical cancer isn’t age restricted so younger women just have to wait until they’re diagnosed?

I think they can? Fairly sure I got my first one at 18, though..I did have an abortion a few years prior to that so I might have been classed as high risk or something? I thought it was that its not routine for younger people, but not sure.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Question, why can’t women under 25 have them? I mean, cervical cancer isn’t age restricted so younger women just have to wait until they’re diagnosed?

*boop bop beep*



The cervix isn't fully developed as the late stages of puberty are still ongoing in the early 20's, thus there are constant cellular changes in the cervix which were previously incorrectly picked up as abnormalities leading to unnecessary (and as above, not risk-free) invasive biopsy procedures. Thus, the age was increased.

For more interesting female reproductive system facts, visit TSgyno.com.

[Niamh.]

The HPV Vacine is relatively new though isn't it? It's only being offered here in schools in the last couple of years and only to girls although there's talks about getting boys done aswell soon. There is a history of cervical cancer in my family so it's important I get my smears done although I will be talking with my doctor about the HPV next time I'm there, obviously anyway of avoiding smears would be fantastic but I don't know why they wouldn't already have offered that if it was a better alternative, especially since we send our smears to American labs to be tested and there's been problems with back logs here atm

[Vicky.]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...eening-numbers

Read this and thought of this thread..what a fantastic idea..not available on the NHS apparently but its only about 80 quid. Rather than stressing myself about being hurt again..I think I am very likely to get this (yes, am still putting it off )

[Livia]

I realised I hadn't had a test for a while... I contacted my surgery who told me I'd had a negative test last year. Not unless they crept in during the night and did it without me knowing. So they said they would have someone would contact me. When I hadn't heard anything a month later I called them again... this time they told me that they don't book the actual appointments, and gave me a London number to ring that took me through to Public Health England. They had no idea why I was calling them, they don't keep records or make appointments and referred me back to the surgery. I had to ask the practise manager to intervene because the reception staff were convinced it wasn't their job to book smear tests.

And they wonder why take-up has fallen.

[Vicky.]

Yeah, the program is not exactly done very well at all. Not much use complaining about takeup when they are giving wrong info out!

[Josy]

My nurse is great when it comes to this tbh always checks during an appointment just to make sure I'm not overdue a test, then the surgery always sends a reminder letter out just before it's due again.

It's quite bad really the amount of women not going for it, my nurse said the percentage of women having it done at our practice is at an all time low :/

We lost my sister in law to cervical cancer a few years back, she was only turned 40 and the scary thing is she had never had an abnormal test result!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

My nurse is great when it comes to this tbh always checks during an appointment just to make sure I'm not overdue a test, then the surgery always sends a reminder letter out just before it's due again.

It's quite bad really the amount of women not going for it, my nurse said the percentage of women having it done at our practice is at an all time low :/

We lost my sister in law to cervical cancer a few years back, she was only turned 40 and the scary thing is she had never had an abnormal test result!

So sorry Josy about your sister in law. There's a big issue here at the moment which i mentioned earlier where around 4000 women got back false results on their smears and unfortunately it was too late for a few of them.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So sorry Josy about your sister in law. There's a big issue here at the moment which i mentioned earlier where around 4000 women got back false results on their smears and unfortunately it was too late for a few of them.

Thanks Nimah

Oh God that's awful :/ issues like that are not acceptable and need sorting out asap, those poor women.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Josy

Thanks Nimah

Oh God that's awful :/ issues like that are not acceptable and need sorting out asap, those poor women.

Yeah so looking at just the women responding here the campaign is a joke ~ get the service in order first !