[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished.

No sh*t Sherlock.

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

No one's worrying about him. It's a general conversation about the death penalty.

You might not one to take part, no one's forcing you to.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No sh*t Sherlock.



No one's worrying about him. It's a general conversation about the death penalty.

You might not one to take part, no one's forcing you to.

I am taking part!

He deserved to die.

In my own opinion, of course.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am taking part!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

if only it was that simple, but some are made a murderer, via a bad style of life, abusive parent(s) or being bullied at school/work becoming a loner

or mentally ill


i guess we gotta pay attention some more to some potential outcasts (same what they warn us for with possible suicide risks) if we can prevent people from going bad, evil and then into criminals, we can make the world a better place to live in


get some of those people the help they need in time from psychiatrists

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

if only it was that simple, but some are made a murderer, via a bad style of life, abusive parent(s) or being bullied at school/work becoming a loner

or mentally ill


i guess we gotta pay attention some more to some potential outcasts (same what they warn us for with possible suicide risks) if we can prevent people from going bad, evil and then into criminals, we can make the world a better place to live in


get some of those people the help they need in time from psychiatrists

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

This is where I actually agree.

Terrible tattoos should be against the law.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

that is what i call, seriously mental ill

and also KKK still exists yeah, but they aren't as big as they used to be, i've seen on investigation discovery, some of these hate groups similar to KKK search for new members online, outcasts, loners are usually targetted to join their group

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

Planning to kill another person in advance and then carrying it out is murder, is it not? Confusing bloodlust for justice doesn't justify murdering a murderer.

It's utterly hypocritical to support state sanctioned murder.

It''s not about the killer, it's about the death penalty and making out that people who disagree with the death penalty are somehow sympathetic to the killer is just a gross tactic for people who lack the capacity to come up with a sound argument.

[Denver]

If everyone read the story and saw the horrific injuries and what actually happen you would have more sympathy for the man who lost his life and the people left behind to deal with such a nasty horrible crime

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If everyone read the story and saw the horrific injuries and what actually happen you would have more sympathy for the man who lost his life and the people left behind to deal with such a nasty horrible crime

Who doesn't have sympathy for his victim?

[Marsh.]

Can I just clarify, I didn't call any forum member Hitler.

I compared the opinion of "They hold different views to me" is what got Hitler murdering everyone he didn't like/agree with. It's a perfectly valid comparison.

But I shall not use his name again.

[Tom4784]

Choosing to intentionally kill another person is murder, the death penalty is murder with a misplaced sense of justice. By supporting the death penalty, you support murder.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Choosing to intentionally kill another person is murder, the death penalty is murder with a misplaced sense of justice. By supporting the death penalty, you support murder.

incorrect

[Livia]

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

I think that would be a better idea, give back to society in some way

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think that would be a better idea, give back to society in some way

Yes, a kind of payback. Not breaking rocks, but something to benefit everyone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

It would be a lot cheaper to shoot them and then spend the money on community projects and giving youngsters apprentiships

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It would be a lot cheaper to shoot them and then spend the money on community projects and giving youngsters apprentiships

Shoot other humans to keep costs down.

And this attitude is better than the murderers themselves how?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Shoot other humans to keep costs down.

And this attitude is better than the murderers themselves how?

You always see a person's true colours when you see how they'd treat people who are meant to be lesser than themselves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You always see a person's true colours when you see how they'd treat people who are meant to be lesser than themselves.

No you dont, you just made it up to make another personal comment

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Shoot other humans to keep costs down.

And this attitude is better than the murderers themselves how?

You won't keep costs down by shooting people, bullets are expensive.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You won't keep costs down by shooting people, bullets are expensive.

LT needs another meeting with his accountant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Shoot other humans to keep costs down.

And this attitude is better than the murderers themselves how?

it would be legal, marsh how many times do I have to make this point to you?, the death penalty is LEGAL, voted for by the peope - murder is illegal as dictated by law, voted for by the people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it would be legal, marsh how many times do I have to make this point to you?, the death penalty is LEGAL, voted for by the peope - murder is illegal as dictated by law, voted for by the people

So? It's the death penalty I'm discussing. Explaining it is the death penalty doesn't change it.

It's "legal" in certain corners of the world to kill gays as punishment for their sexual orientation.

Are we not allowed to disagree with barbaric laws?

Humans killing humans should never be legal.

[Twosugars]

Apparently life sentence is cheaper than death penalty process