[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

is an opinion only



and everyone has an opinion how other people bring up their kids



including others having an opinion how you bring up yours

It isn't an opinion that they left 3 children under 4 years old (so 3 babies really) alone in an unlocked apartment while they went out drinking, they've admitted as much.

[Liam-]

If they were on benefits, or black, they’d have had the other kids taken off of them for the very blatant neglect they showed towards their children, yes their child was allegedly kidnapped, but even if that’s true, that child wouldn’t have been kidnapped if they had been better parents, so why they’re treated like the ultimate victims is quite bizarre to me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It isn't an opinion that they left 3 children under 4 years old (so 3 babies really) alone in an unlocked apartment while they went out drinking, they've admitted as much.

and your opinion is its neglect

its certainly not their opinion

[Crimson Dynamo]

and they went for supper

saying they went drinking is pure tabloid rubbish

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and they went for supper

saying they went drinking is pure tabloid rubbish

Considering they themselves said they ordered wine that night, its not tabloid rubbish at all really is it. Unless you're accusing them of lying??

[Redway]

Anyone know when this is going to be over?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If they were on benefits, or black, they’d have had the other kids taken off of them for the very blatant neglect they showed towards their children, yes their child was allegedly kidnapped, but even if that’s true, that child wouldn’t have been kidnapped if they had been better parents, so why they’re treated like the ultimate victims is quite bizarre to me.

Yup.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your opinion is its neglect

its certainly not their opinion

I would hope it would be the vast majority of parents opinions. I would take a very dim view of any parent leaving 3 babies alone in a foreign country at night,particularly when one child even told.the parents they were crying the previous evening because they were scared and alone. But hey ho, if you don't think that's neglect and questionable, that's your choice. I just hope the next time a story comes up about a child being left home alone, you are equally as charitable.to that neglectful parent, unless you feel ok with double standards?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If they were on benefits, or black, they’d have had the other kids taken off of them for the very blatant neglect they showed towards their children, yes their child was allegedly kidnapped, but even if that’s true, that child wouldn’t have been kidnapped if they had been better parents, so why they’re treated like the ultimate victims is quite bizarre to me.

Exactly
Who in their right mind leaves 3 BABIES alone, in a foreign country in an apartment alone.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

spine chilling

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your opinion is its neglect



its certainly not their opinion

If it was their opinion they would still have 3 children

[The Slim Reaper]

[thesheriff443]

You can be in the same room as your child and they can die of an accident or foul play
Parents make mistakes

We don’t know how much of an impact those kids being left alone had until we know who was responsible for what happened to maddie

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can be in the same room as your child and they can die of an accident or foul play
Parents make mistakes

We don’t know how much of an impact those kids being left alone had until we know who was responsible for what happened to maddie

Children can drown in the same pool as a parent that doesn't mean that you just leave them swim unsupervised, that would be deliberately neglectful

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Children can drown in the same pool as a parent that doesn't mean that you just leave them swim unsupervised, that would be deliberately neglectful

You are taking what I said down a different route

Kids could be playing in the garden and the parent popping outside every so often to check on them, there is a grey area

It’s only when things go wrong that things come out.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You are taking what I said down a different route



Kids could be playing in the garden and the parent popping outside every so often to check on them, there is a grey area



It’s only when things go wrong that things come out.

I'm not taking it to a different area at all

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not taking it too a different area at all

You are by coming up with a scenario of deliberate neglect

It’s not deliberate neglect in the McCann case because they were checking on them, if they just left them in a room and went out for the night it would be deliberate neglect

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You are by coming up with a scenario of deliberate neglect



It’s not deliberate neglect in the McCann case because they were checking on them, if they just left them in a room and went out for the night it would be deliberate neglect

It was absolutely deliberate neglect, especially when you have the extra information that Madeleine had actually woken up the night before and told her parents she was scared because she couldn't find them.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was absolutely deliberate neglect, especially when you have the extra information that Madeleine had actually woken up the night before and told her parents she was scared because she couldn't find them.

The police don’t agree with you and I don’t either

Until we know the facts like was those kids being left on their own was to cover up a crime we will have to agree to disagree

And would a piss poor sentence for neglect be worse than living with the fact your bad judgment lead to maddie being lost.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The police don’t agree with you and I don’t either



Until we know the facts like was those kids being left on their own was to cover up a crime we will have to agree to disagree



And would a piss poor sentence for neglect be worse than living with the fact your bad judgment lead to maddie being lost.

3 babies being left alone, at night in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country is neglect, you telling me it isn't doesn't change my mind about that

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

3 babies being left alone, at night in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country is neglect, you telling me it isn't doesn't change my mind about that

I’m not trying to change your mind
The situation didn’t meet the grounds for neglect because they were being checked on regardless of it being a stupid thing to do.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’m not trying to change your mind
The situation didn’t meet the grounds for neglect because they were being checked on regardless of it being a stupid thing to do.

Why didn't 1 of them atleast stay with the children that night,why did BOTH parents have to go out partying.

If they didn't want a family holiday then why take their kids with them , just to then LEAVE them ALONE .

I don't care how many times they claimed to "check" on them ,they still neglected them .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why didn't 1 of them atleast stay with the children that night,why did BOTH parents have to go out partying.

If they didn't want a family holiday then why take their kids with them , just to then LEAVE them ALONE .

I don't care how many times they claimed to "check" on them ,they still neglected them .

Capital letters won’t help I’m afraid or saying they were partying, it was a meal
It was a family holiday that included other families
It’s doesn’t matter how strongly you feel about something
Facts are more important than opinions

[AnnieK]

If a person lived across the road from a pub and had 3 kids under 3 and went to the pub every night to eat and for a few drinks leaving the kids unattended. If a fire then broke out in between checking on the kids and they perished in a fire....do you not think that would be neglect as they were being checked on?

[rusticgal]

They were guilty of neglect…sitting in a restaurant some distance away leaving 3 children under 3 alone in an unlocked apartment was unforgivable. Personally I don’t believe they killed her…but their neglect was the reason someone was able to take her. Had they been with them it would simply not have happened.