[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when the Guardian was a decent newspaper, now due to catastrophic falling sales it resorts to dog whistling its small band of readers and begging them for money

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I remember when the Guardian was a decent newspaper, now due to catastrophic falling sales it resorts to dog whistling its small band of readers and begging them for money

Yes I agree LT

[bots]

Nigel Farage is facing strong criticism from Jewish organisations and a series of other groups after it emerged he repeatedly took part in interviews with a far-right US talkshow host, during which the Brexit party leader openly discussed conspiracy theories, some of which have been linked to antisemitism.

so it doesnt discuss context at all, which believe it or not, is pretty important.

I'm afraid that Farage has a long way to go before he praises terrorists, speaks at terrorist sponsored events and specifically supports anti-semitism in the way that Corbyn has been shown to do, time after time after time.

Farage is a third tier idiot politician. Corbyn is the leader of the opposition and a party that has millions of members. Is the difference not obvious?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

so it doesnt discuss context at all, which believe it or not, is pretty important.

I'm afraid that Farage has a long way to go before he praises terrorists, speaks at terrorist sponsored events and specifically supports anti-semitism in the way that Corbyn has been shown to do, time after time after time.

Farage is a third tier idiot politician. Corbyn is the leader of the opposition and a party that has millions of members. Is the difference not obvious?

its very poor "journalism"

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here, can people please stop with the personal comments and insults and stay ontopic. Thanks.

[Twosugars]

Let's remember that Nige has a record when it comes to antisemitic remarks.

Here's what The Times of Israel reported at the end of 2017

UK’s Farage says US Jews have disproportionate influence over politics
Right-wing ex-politician’s comments on ‘very powerful’ Israel lobby sparks outrage by anti-Semitism watchdog

https://www.timesofisrael.com/farage...over-politics/

[Twosugars]

some of his words quoted here:

Nigel Farage: Americans Should Worry About The Jews
Nigel Farage has, apparently, now exhausted every avenue of contrarianism, and so in desperation, following in the tradition of the far-right has, as many had previously anticipated, laid the blame upon 'The Jews'.

During a discussion on the involvement of Russia in US elections, he stated that "there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews".

“There are other very powerful lobbies in the United States of America, and the Jewish lobby, with its links with the Israeli government, is one of those strong voices,” Farage said on his London-based radio show.

A caller then asked Farage if American lawmakers are "in the pockets" of Israel. To this, Farage said, "In terms of money and influence yes they are a very powerful lobby."

Jewish civil rights groups immediately condemned his comments.

“Nigel Farage’s comments about the role of a powerful ‘Jewish lobby’ in America plays into deep-seated anti-Semitic tropes about supposed Jewish control of government,” Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt told Newsweek. “This is fuel for white supremacists who exploit and spread conspiracy theories about ‘evil, controlling Jews.’”

Conflating a Jewish and Israeli lobby is not only conspiratorial and false, said Greenblatt, but could “have the unintended consequence of encouraging anti-Semites and extremists to exploit them.”

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/20...about-the-jews

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

some of his words quoted here:


https://eutoday.net/news/politics/20...about-the-jews

no denying now, he did mention ''jews'' and in a anti semitic way

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no denying now, he did mention ''jews'' and in a anti semitic way

Go on then explain how

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Go on then explain how

"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

that's how
now you explain why would he say that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

that's how
now you explain why would he say that?

I was addressing Nicky please refrain from patronising him in this manner, again.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

that's how
now you explain why would he say that?

Can you post the link word for word because the example you have given is the only one that is printed out of context...if that's the correct saying...like they just say he said it but don't follow up with the conversation he said it in....they do with the other things he said.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no denying now, he did mention ''jews'' and in a anti semitic way

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Go on then explain how

Originally Posted by Twosugars

"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

[Twosugars]

if it quacks like an antisemite it is an antisemite

[Parmy]

Did ofcom look into this?

[Oliver_W]

The Israeli government is pretty influential on the world stage though.

[Twosugars]

I provided the links I used, Parmnion, you can do it yourself, there's lots on it, it's not a secret.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes and I asked Nicky a question not TS. He can answer for himself, if anything TS is shutting him down

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes and I asked Nicky a question not TS. He can answer for himself, if anything TS is shutting him down

I'd never shut Nicky down, he knows that.
It's you who picks on him all the time.
And now you pick on me like you did yesterday when you accused me of all sorts.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I'd never shut Nicky down, he knows that.

It's you who picks on him all the time.

And now you pick on me like you did yesterday when you accused me of all sorts.

You are all as guilty as each other, stop diverting blame.

I've watched it for days, bumped the thread about constant arguing and still it continues.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

LT is notorious for following Nicky and picking on him, in chat and in other threads.

Like I said, stop diverting blame if you want to start calling people out, you yourself have been baiting for days.

Now if you could all try debate like adults I'll leave you to it.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Josy

Like I said, stop diverting blame if you want to start calling people out, you yourself have been baiting for days.

Now if you could all try debate like adults I'll leave you to it.

Moi? The very idea

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Like I said, stop diverting blame if you want to start calling people out, you yourself have been baiting for days.

Now if you could all try debate like adults I'll leave you to it.

I get infracted for baiting.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes and I asked Nicky a question not TS. He can answer for himself, if anything TS is shutting him down

a silly question which i didn't want to give a answer to myself


TS gave a good answer to you anyway i think

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes and I asked Nicky a question not TS. He can answer for himself, if anything TS is shutting him down

It's a discussion LT, if someone else wants to answer a question then they are perfectly entitled to do so.

If people want private conversations then the main forum isnt the place.

I've removed at least 4 posts today telling people what they can or cant post in here, informing them not to reply to them or they are going on ignore, it's not on, it's time for all involved to either debate like adults or step away from the discussion.