[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/home-offi...boxes-11785645


[The Home Office has been branded
"crude" and "offensive" over an
attempt to tackle knife crime with
the distribution of #knifefree boxes
to chicken shops.
More than 321,000 chicken boxes
featuring the Home Office campaign
have been sent to more than 210 outlets
in England and Wales.
The boxes, which will replace
standard packaging in chains
such as Morley's, Chicken Cottage
and Dixy Chicken, are printed with
real life stories of young people who
have chosen to no longer carry a knife.]


Big Debate on Ch5HD Live AM today on this.

MP Lammy Labour
has done his usual Angry tweets

[Oliver_W]

So people are soiling themselves because anti-knife messages are on fried chicken boxes? Sounds a bit racist, assuming that only certain people like fried chicken.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So people are soiling themselves because anti-knife messages are on fried chicken boxes? Sounds a bit racist, assuming that only certain people like fried chicken.

All kids like Fried Chicken
And Girls are Knifing in London , as well.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

All kids like Fried Chicken
And Girls are Knifing in London , as well.

Even adults like me, like fried chicken.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Even adults like me, like fried chicken.

Yes always
exceptions.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

All kids like Fried Chicken
And Girls are Knifing in London , as well.

Yes,this was debated on TV this morning it seems most would agree with you arista .

[bots]

it's the association common with fried chicken, and why target that on its own

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So people are soiling themselves because anti-knife messages are on fried chicken boxes? Sounds a bit racist, assuming that only certain people like fried chicken.

I think we all know the demographics overrepresented when it comes to knife crime in London is young black men. so we are to assume any campaign to tackle knife crime in London is specifically targeted to young black boys. so essentially printing "knives are bad" on fried chicken boxes is the only way they thought they could get through to these boys... and yeah, we know that everybody likes fried chicken but let's not act like white people haven't created a stereotype around black people and fried chicken and that stereotype is not why they thought this was a good idea. I really don't buy that anyone actually believes that they would ever do the same thing to tackle the white on white gang violence in this country. Like just imagine that scenario in your head.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think we all know the demographics overrepresented when it comes to knife crime in London is young black men. so we are to assume any campaign to tackle knife crime in London is specifically targeted to young black boys. so essentially printing "knives are bad" on fried chicken boxes is the only way they thought they could get through to these boys... and yeah, we know that everybody likes fried chicken but let's not act like white people haven't created a stereotype around black people and fried chicken and that stereotype is not why they thought this was a good idea. I really don't buy that anyone actually believes that they would ever do the same thing to tackle the white on white gang violence in this country. Like just imagine that scenario in your head.

Then let's just say black people commit the most knife crimes, and fried chicken is popular among black people ... then surely it's no different to advertising a Warhammer Club in a comics shop?

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Then let's just say black people commit the most knife crimes, and fried chicken is popular among black people ... then surely it's no different to advertising a Warhammer Club in a comics shop?

sir black people have interests outside of fried chicken...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

sir black people have interests outside of fried chicken...

Sure they do, but targeted advertisements rely on general interests of whoever they're aimed at. Maybe music streaming sites have similar banners on their hiphop sections?

Anyway, this particular instance is clearly in response to the recent report that potential gang members are being groomed in such places. It's about trying to stem that, rather than the Home Office thinking "black people love chicken, put the ads in there!"

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So people are soiling themselves because anti-knife messages are on fried chicken boxes? Sounds a bit racist, assuming that only certain people like fried chicken.

Who's assuming that? ...

[Kizzy]

I'm going to suggest this isn't a race issue at all, the charity involved mentions several areas where young people are watched and selected by recruiters for drug gangs. These include youth refferal units and chicken shops, anywhere vulnerable or disaffected young people gather, they are then tagetted befriended and exploited.
Enders did a storyline on it with tiff ..in a chicken shop.

If this helps one person regardless of ethnicity or gender it's worth it, what's the alternative do nothing?

[GoldHeart]

It's obvious it's more to do with targeting youths in general who could be involved or at risk

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm going to suggest this isn't a race issue at all, the charity involved mentions several areas where young people are watched and selected by recruiters for drug gangs. These include youth refferal units and chicken shops, anywhere vulnerable or disaffected young people gather, they are then tagetted befriended and exploited.
Enders did a storyline on it with tiff ..in a chicken shop.

If this helps one person regardless of ethnicity or gender it's worth it, what's the alternative do nothing?

Agree Kizzy

[Alf]

This isn't how to tackle knife crime.

A better way is for parents to make sure their children know right from wrong.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

This isn't how to tackle knife crime.

A better way is for parents to make sure their children know right from wrong.

Its to late for that
it gone way past that , for years.

[smudgie]

Perhaps if they had other fast food outlets doing the same then Lammy couldn’t jump on his soapbox so quick.

[armand.kay]

like this is so obviously racist and silly that if it wasn't actually happening it would make for a hilarious satirical sketch... wth is going on?? ldreiovklnoib