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Old 04-09-2019, 10:39 PM #1
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Thr media aren't, but social media platforms seem to like banning right wing public figures.
....because a lot of right wing public figures broke very open and transparent rules of use for said social media platforms.

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I mean, when the right bring it on themselves when they do sheer clownery like this

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I mean, when the right bring it on themselves when they do sheer clownery like this

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It’s all yesterday’s news, all papers are the same, they just have bigger words.
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It’s all yesterday’s news, all papers are the same, they just have bigger words.


Me trying to decipher what the hell this means.
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Are the media beginning to silence the right wing of politics?
No, in fact in the UK the media are the right wing of politics.
Look at any independent analysis of media bias and you'll see.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
it's all about business yes
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
Are there any neutral media?... nu media most certainly isn't it's an echo chamber at best.
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Are there any neutral media?... nu media most certainly isn't it's an echo chamber at best.
I find the BBC to be fairly neutral. They try to report both sides of an argument. I guess programmes and sites like Sky News and ITV News too.

In terms of freedom of speech we have probably never had more of it, and never more access for people to get their views out into the world. However that is causing some problems.
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I find the BBC to be fairly neutral. They try to report both sides of an argument. I guess programmes and sites like Sky News and ITV News too.

In terms of freedom of speech we have probably never had more of it, and never more access for people to get their views out into the world. However that is causing some problems.
Sky News blatantly favours the right wing of Politics imo.
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You are well out of Date
SkyNewsHD is now owned by NBC/Comcast USA
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I find the BBC to be fairly neutral. They try to report both sides of an argument. I guess programmes and sites like Sky News and ITV News too.

In terms of freedom of speech we have probably never had more of it, and never more access for people to get their views out into the world. However that is causing some problems.
Have you seen the reaction to news night? You might want to rethink your view of the BBC....
I've just been reading about siri filtering the word 'feminism' from responses, so sorry no I don't agree that we are able to freely get our views into the world.
The freedom you suggest we have us an illusion, it's a post truth era remember where there is a yougov poll of a handful of middle Englanders that represent the UK on any given topic.
Where we've 'had enough' of experts, and AI makes your voting choices for you.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
This isn't actually supported by the facts though. Left wing users generally (but not completely) aren't promoting conspiracy theorists, misogyny, racism etc, which is why they are banned less.

Also, there was a recent report showing twitter actually gives leeway to far right users, because in order to blanket ban their bigotry, they'd also have to ban US conservative politicians for espousing the same views.

It is now, and always has been a content rather than the loudest voice issue


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...oliticians-too

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...19-4?r=US&IR=T
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This isn't actually supported by the facts though. Left wing users generally (but not completely) aren't promoting conspiracy theorists, misogyny, racism etc, which is why they are banned less.

Also, there was a recent report showing twitter actually gives leeway to far right users, because in order to blanket ban their bigotry, they'd also have to ban US conservative politicians for espousing the same views.

It is now, and always has been a content rather than the loudest voice issue


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...oliticians-too

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...19-4?r=US&IR=T
Very true

They'd have to ban trump for starters, the orange bigot, racist and white supremacist
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This isn't actually supported by the facts though. Left wing users generally (but not completely) aren't promoting conspiracy theorists, misogyny, racism etc, which is why they are banned less.

Also, there was a recent report showing twitter actually gives leeway to far right users, because in order to blanket ban their bigotry, they'd also have to ban US conservative politicians for espousing the same views.

It is now, and always has been a content rather than the loudest voice issue


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...oliticians-too

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...19-4?r=US&IR=T
Interesting article, possibly accurate. Though the source is a single anonymous employee. There's no official statement from the company or much other factual evidence to support the claim.

Vice.com as a whole definitely has a left or centre-left point of view. Business Insider is mainly just an aggregator site that repeats the original article.

More about news organisations political leanings - https://www.google.com/search?q=vice...obile&ie=UTF-8
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Interesting article, possibly accurate. Though the source is a single anonymous employee. There's no official statement from the company or much other factual evidence to support the claim.

Vice.com as a whole definitely has a left or centre-left point of view. Business Insider is mainly just an aggregator site that repeats the original article.

More about news organisations political leanings - https://www.google.com/search?q=vice...obile&ie=UTF-8
That's fair, however there are a couple of glaringly obvious counter points that spring up from your post.

Considering that conservatives take turns in kicking places like twitter for banning their far right opinions, which they then feed into their grievance movement, how likely are right wing sites to then report on issues like this? I've seen this reported on MSNBC previously, which admittedly is a primarily centre left news org, but they are a news org nonetheless.

Again, I agree on your point concerning the lack of concrete facts, but then then your original post that I was replying to was also guilty of that same flaw. You made a speculative assertion that was lacking in anything to back it up other than the whines and cries of those banned. Are they likely to be the most level headed of complainants?
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That's fair, however there are a couple of glaringly obvious counter points that spring up from your post.

Considering that conservatives take turns in kicking places like twitter for banning their far right opinions, which they then feed into their grievance movement, how likely are right wing sites to then report on issues like this? I've seen this reported on MSNBC previously, which admittedly is a primarily centre left news org, but they are a news org nonetheless.

Again, I agree on your point concerning the lack of concrete facts, but then then your original post that I was replying to was also guilty of that same flaw. You made a speculative assertion that was lacking in anything to back it up other than the whines and cries of those banned. Are they likely to be the most level headed of complainants?
Lol at you being ever so politely rude to the big man...nice to see all the same.

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No, they’re talking as much as ever.... its just that nobodys listening anymore.
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oh i wish all right wing were silenced but sadly that isn't the case (yet)

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i won't even talk to them anymore about politics, all what comes out of their mouth is racist, xenophobic trash


it sucks to be only left wing in the family, while my mom, dad, nan are all towards right wing

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it sucks to be only left wing in the family, while my mom, dad, nan are all towards right wing



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Nanny state, Political correctness, they're oppressive things, and human beings don't like being oppressed. I wouldn't even call them "the right" they're just normal people who mainly come from usual Labour heartlands.
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