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Old 26-09-2019, 07:05 AM #1
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Was it any worse than corbyns silly woman comment that he lied about saying....and Boris didn't scuttle out the chamber..he left after sitting there for hours upon hours whilst his opponents didn't. .they all came back in together to attack a tired man as one...he did the right thing by leaving..probably hungry and desperate for the toilet....but it's easy to dress it up a Boris scuttling away if that's the narrative you want to put forward or force...it almost comes across as hateful and inciteful. ..

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The speaker made it very clear that all sides had received death threats.
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The speaker made it very clear that all sides had received death threats.

Yes the Conservative Chair MP
on TV News this morning confirmed that
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Yes the Conservative Chair MP
on TV News this morning confirmed that
As far as I'm aware none spoke last night, if they have this morning then I wouldn't know that would I?
It might have been helpful if theyd spoke up for their colleagues on the opposite benches last night then?
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Using a dead woman as a tool in a political argument is just vile. Honestly, I haven't read up properly on this yet, but it seems a common tactic and its horrendous.

Edited to add. IF it was in a 'we don't want something like Jo Cox's murder to happen again' then obviously its fine. If its in a 'stop/go through with Brexit, honour her memory!!11' then not, at all. My husband caught the back end of it and said it was the second, it might have started as the first. Not sure as I havent watched/read anything yet so maybe shouldnt comment.

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Using a dead woman as a tool in a political argument is just vile. Honestly, I haven't read up properly on this yet, but it seems a common tactic and its horrendous.

Edited to add. IF it was in a 'we don't want something like Jo Cox's murder to happen again' then obviously its fine. If its in a 'stop/go through with Brexit, honour her memory!!11' then not, at all. My husband caught the back end of it and said it was the second, it might have started as the first. Not sure as I havent watched/read anything yet so maybe shouldnt comment.

She wasn't brought in as a tool at all.

They were complaining at the divisive inflammatory language used by the PM.
Since the referendum, MPs are getting serious threats.
Even death threats not just to them but their families too.

Jo was brutally murdered, during the referendum.
She was an MP.
A Labour MP.
Other Labour MPs were her close friends.
None of whom want another friend or any other MP of any party, brutally murdered.
As MPs in all Parties are getting worrying and even death threats.

However the PMs response to a woman rightly enraged at his inflammatory terminogy.
Was he'd never heard such humbug.

What's incredible and telling is that anyone finds that humerous.

I still shudder at Lee Rigby's brutal murder.
Worrying for those in all armed forces.

Jo Cox was an MP murdered just doing her job.
Naturally if anyone inflames tensions with terminology like, surrendering, capitulating, traitors, betrayers.
Of course it needs raising to remind people of what such language could lead to possibly.

From a PM it is and should be disgraceful.

Jess Philips has had horrendous threats against her even today.

Do we have to wait until another brutal murder of an MP happens.
Before those who'd just dismiss those really worrying about it.
Stop finding it humerous and seem to think a brutal murder of anyone, adult or child should not be kept in focus.

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She wasn't brought in as a tool at all.

They were complaining at the divisive inflammatory language used by the PM.
Since the referendum, MPs are getting serious threats.
Even death threats not just to them but their families too.

Jo was brutally murdered, during the referendum.
She was an MP.
A Labour MP.
Other Labour MPs were her close friends.
None of whom want another friend or any other MP of any party, brutally murdered.
As MPs in all Parties are getting worrying and even death threats.

However the PMs response to a woman rightly enraged at his inflammatory terminogy.
Was he'd never heard such humbug.

What's incredible and telling is that anyone finds that humerous.

I still shudder at Lee Rigby's brutal murder.
Worrying for those in all armed forces.

Jo Cox was an MP murdered just doing her job.
Naturally if anyone inflames tensions with terminology like, surrendering, capitulating, traitors, betrayers.
Of course it needs raising to remind people of what such language could lead to possibly.

From a PM it is and should be disgraceful.

Jess Philips has had horrendous threats against her even today.

Do we have to wait until another brutal murder of an MP happens.
Before those who'd just dismiss those really worrying about it.
Stop finding it humerous and seem to think a brutal murder of anyone, adult or child should not be kept in focus.
Thanks for explaining a bit more joey. I probably should not have commented before reading/watching it all myself. Second hand accounts are not really the most reliable of sources, plus as I said, he only caught the end of it really..where he said boris walked out as basically, everyone was shouting at him,

I think the MPs need to chill the **** out in general though when 'debating'. Yeah, debating inspires passion in people, but it really seems they all just yell at each other and insult each other, its not really good to see those who are in charge of the country behaving like children.
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OK from reading this thread looks like he got the wrong end of the stick too.

The threats MPs get, and especially female MPs are vile. I remember Jess Phillips I think it was, saying she got hundreds of death and rape threats for speaking out on womens rights..its just awful :/
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The clown is aping trump.
Ramping up the language to sow divisions.
He will try to claim parliament and judiciary are against "the people"

So much for uniting the country he promised
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The clown is aping trump.
Ramping up the language to sow divisions.
He will try to claim parliament and judiciary are against "the people"

So much for uniting the country he promised
Language is a beautiful thing, especially the English one. I'd take language over violence any day.
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Do you any other languages to compare?
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Do you any other languages to compare?
Oui
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Alors combien de francais connaissez-vous vraiment, juste oui?
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the stench at the disrespectfulness for the scottish, Welsh, northern irish languages
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They all use the English language too, mainly.
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It's funny that for the past 3 years, remoaners have been calling leavers, Nazis, fascists, far-right, bigots, racists, little Englanders.

And now they're demanding some sort of anger from people about language being used against them.

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It's funny that for the past 3 years, remoaners have been calling leavers, Nazis, fascists, far-right, bigots, racists, little Englanders.

And now they're demanding some sort of anger from people about language being used against them.
The only person bringing up nazis was bojo when he compared EU to nazi Germany
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David Lammy compared Leaver MPs to Nazis and then said 'he didn't go far enough' when he was challenged on it
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"The language a the tone" it's not yet 11.30am and I've heard that said close to a hundred times already today. Mainstream news is so boring.
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"The language a the tone" it's not yet 11.30am and I've heard that said close to a hundred times already today. Mainstream news is so boring.
Since I posted this, just watching Sky news alone, I've heard the word "language" said 57 times (I've been counting, play along) It's like they're trying to push something to distract from something else, but trying way too hard

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Since I posted this, just watching Sky news alone, I've heard the word "language" said 57 times (I've been counting, play along) It's like they're trying to push something to distract from something else, but trying way too hard
Its ridiculous how its all homed in on this but it must be nectar to the opposition who seem to have forgotten it was that screeching woman who first brought Jo Cox into the debate , they are like kids in a playground. if he'de have said fook off I could understand it,but really humbug ? BAH
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The European commission has joined those reprimanding Boris Johnson for the language he used in the Commons last night about his opponent. This is what the commission’s spokeswoman, Mina Andreeva, said on the subject.

We would remind everybody that respect is a fundamental value in all democracies. It is the responsibility of each and every politician to uphold our values. History has shown us what happens when they are not respected.

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The European commission has joined those reprimanding Boris Johnson for the language he used in the Commons last night about his opponent. This is what the commission’s spokeswoman, Mina Andreeva, said on the subject.

We would remind everybody that respect is a fundamental value in all democracies. It is the responsibility of each and every politician to uphold our values. History has shown us what happens when they are not respected.

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and they should butt out and stop trying to influence the british people
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and they should butt out and stop trying to influence the british people
Tell that to trump too
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and they should butt out and stop trying to influence the british people
Yes we don't want or need a voice or reason! We have trump!

listen to yourself.. butt out, what kind of adolescent jargon is that?
I'll add that to the list of people we can't take advice off experts, scientists, the EU
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