[bots]

i think people are entitled to be annoyed when their political beliefs are not being implemented. If people think it's bad now, they should have been there when Maggie was re-elected. Passions ran very high

However, a week or 2 after the election, it's best to accept the realities of democracy and manage the best you can. Nothing lasts forever.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Just watching the news over the past weeks and I hear so many opinions of people from both sides

Labour voters are always so negative about their sorry financial state, their bad health, the services in their town not having enough money spent on it, how they need more support and just generally how hard their lives are.

Tory voters talk about the future and the hopes for the success of the country.

Why is this?

Because tbf those complaints are genuine problems in the country.

Thousands of Tories and Labour voters (and countless of other parties supporters) have been living it rough over the past 4 or 5 years in particular, it imo is not a Labour issue but instead is a countrywide issue that Boris and his administration are gonna have to try and sort out, and that's not by Austerity but by investing.

The future of the UK is in trouble if the Tories don't learn from their mistakes, they've got at least another 5 years to finally get this right. And hopefully they will.

[Liam-]

It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

its like charity organisations dont exist for you

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its like charity organisations dont exist for you

Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

Exactly

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Oh that’s alright then, government doesn’t have to do it’s job and look after everyone in their country cause there are charities out there that do it for them, drivel, utter drivel, charities are there to help people that need it yes, they’re not there to subsidise the responsibilities of the government.

and all governments provide money to local authorities to deal with things like this, talk to your local councillor and volunteer to help?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and all governments provide money to local authorities to deal with things like this, talk to your local councillor and volunteer to help?

Aye, the local authorities that have all had their budgets slashed so struggle even more to do what they need to, also, full time carer here, no time to help, that’s what people always tell me ‘why don’t you just work some hours a week to help get more money?’ If I could I would, I’d love to go out there and help more people, because I care about people.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It baffles my head that people begrudge kids in poverty being given a helping hand, disadvantaged families being given help to feed themselves, homeless people being helped off the street, families being given an opportunity to go out and earn for their families with free childcare, something they might not be able to do otherwise, nobody wants something for nothing, people want people to not have to suffer in the the 5th richest country in the world, in the 21st century, some people have to work multiple jobs to just scrape over the poverty line, Joe is that okay? where has our compassion as a country gone? There used to be a time where the British stuck together, now it’s a big old two fingers to anyone that isn’t deemed good enough, it’s shameful.

...and at the time of year that we’re celebrating Christianity because we are a country of Christian values...of the innkeeper saying...yes, there is always room and there is always welcome...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...and at the time of year that we’re celebrating Christianity because we are a country of Christian values...of the innkeeper saying...yes, there is always room and there is always welcome...

so you will be housing a few homeless this Christmas in you own house?

im pretty sure not one tibb member would even consider it for a nano second

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...and at the time of year that we’re celebrating Christianity because we are a country of Christian values...of the innkeeper saying...yes, there is always room and there is always welcome...

The way things are going there won’t be any inns ( pubs ) around !!


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[user104658]

The fun will really start when the Tories do NOT slash immigration, but actually increase Non-EU migration (the kind that your Katies and Tommys REALLY don't like).

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The fun will really start when the Tories do NOT slash immigration, but actually increase Non-EU migration (the kind that your Katies and Tommys REALLY don't like).

That will happen.

India already said no trade deal without easing immigration restrictions

[user104658]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Labour voters are always so negative about their sorry financial state, their bad health, the services in their town not having enough money spent on it, how they need more support and just generally how hard their lives are.

You mean the people worst affected by cuts complain about them the most? that's really odd I can't fathom why it might be that way.

[Livia]

The fun will really start when everybody stops moaning or gloating, depending on which side you're on, and the government is given a chance.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

The fun will really start when everybody stops moaning or gloating, depending on which side you're on, and the government is given a chance.

Tbf the Tories have had 9 years, I think that people have a right at this point to complain about their mistreatment of a lot of people in this country.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf the Tories have had 9 years, I think that people have a right at this point to complain about their mistreatment of a lot of people in this country.

Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.

[Ammi]

...Boris is a man who even in his campaign to be leader... couldn’t look at or comment on the image of a child laying on a hospital floor...what was more sickening..the child’s image or the lack of concern shown by ‘our leader’ for a child with suspected pneumonia and his ‘waiting time’ in hospital...people have every reason to be concerned, to be devastated and deflated and that should be respected...many people have ‘waited to see what happens’ in their poverty under a Conservative government in this country...they’ve waited and they’ve waited and they’ve waited...and they have every right to have no faith in someone who has so far, given us nothing but words and slogans...when presented with a sick child, an opportunity for action...even a ‘media opportunity’...he turned his face away...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.

like what Boris said, more unity pls


FINALLY the thing they realize what you need to get brexit done, which is getting unity in britain

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.

It never takes very long for the losers in any kind of vote to start making up reason why they're still right, even after a crushing defeat. British people kicked out Corbyn and his friends, they made it crystal clear that his kind of politics was not wanted.

Apparently if you voted Conservative, you voted to end the NHS.

If you voted Labour, you're an anti-Semite. Isn't that as fair as the line above?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Livia

It never takes very long for the losers in any kind of vote to start making up reason why they're still right, even after a crushing defeat. British people kicked out Corbyn and his friends, they made it crystal clear that his kind of politics was not wanted.

Apparently if you voted Conservative, you voted to end the NHS.

If you voted Labour, you're an anti-Semite. Isn't that as fair as the line above?

Just because someone won an election it doesnt make them correct

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.

I'm hoping that Boris will be good (or at least better than I'm thinking) I honestly don't want the UK to be struggling like this with the NHS and the rise in homelessness, so if he can fix those problems then great.

However there will be MP's that were from the two previous Administrations that will be apart of Boris's Administration which tbh scares the crap out of me as those people have helped divide this country.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf the Tories have had 9 years, I think that people have a right at this point to complain about their mistreatment of a lot of people in this country.

people had the right to vote for another party at FOUR elections and each time they rejected labour. I think its best to put it that way so that it puts it in the correct perspective. Labour have been rejected. They need to shake it up if they want to ever be elected again. Moaning from the sidelines doesn't achieve anything.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people had the right to vote for another party at FOUR elections and each time they rejected labour. I think its best to put it that way so that it puts it in the correct perspective. Labour have been rejected. They need to shake it up if they want to ever be elected again. Moaning from the sidelines doesn't achieve anything.

Tbf every time an Election comes around the Media rile up the masses against the opposition at every opportunity.

I mean look at the **** that they printed about Ed Miliband and his Father so that the public would vote for David Cameron.

And don't get me started on the slander towards Corbyn.

And tbh my way was also the correct perspective, the Tories have had 9 years to run this country properly before Boris and they've failed, they're just incredibly lucky that the Media give them a help in hand, and that Labour have been infighting.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf every time an Election comes around the Media rile up the masses against the opposition at every opportunity.

I mean look at the **** that they printed about Ed Miliband and his Father so that the public would vote for David Cameron.

And don't get me started on the slander towards Corbyn.

And tbh my way was also the correct perspective, the Tories have had 9 years to run this country properly before Boris and they've failed, they're just incredibly lucky that the Media give them a help in hand, and that Labour have been infighting.

It was ridiculous when Ed miliband was labour leader as nobody ever listened to him , instead he got mocked for how he ate a sandwich and people made fun of his voice and face . Poor guy never had a chance.



Again anyone would think it was a beauty contest instead of politics, and even if it was about looks Cameron loses in that department same with Johnson so no idea why they're so popular .

Cameron looks like the marshmallow boy from Ghostbusters & Johnson looks like a pig .