[Oliver_W]

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

[thesheriff443]

It’s just mud throwing, it will get to the senate and be thrown out.

20 members of his own party would have vote against him.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

What are you taking about? What espionage?

Ollie be honest you dont even know this case

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s just mud throwing, it will get to the senate and be thrown out.

20 members of his own party would have vote against him.

It's only mud slinging if you choose to ignore the facts.

But yes, it will get thrown out because you can't expect 20 republicans to uphold the law when Mitch McConnell is so brazen and proud of the fact that he is planning on flouting the constitution to get a guilty man acquitted.

Republicans and the Right Wing only believe in justice when it benefits them.

[arista]

Trump is Live in Battle Creek , Michigan
"Massive" Rally
SkyNewsHD (owned by NBC/Comcast)
saying how his Farmers get 16 Billion Dollars
during the China Trade War.

Meanwhile 9 mins to go on a vote
Capitol Hill.


FoxNewsHD (online only) has trump feed
in a little square , no sound

[arista]

Trump has now been Impeached
for Abuse of Power,
and Obstruction of Justice.

2 Counts.




https://news.sky.com/story/live-deba...trump-11889901


Feel The Force

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

What are you taking about? What espionage?

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

[arista]

Trump is Live On SkyNewsHD
talking about him being Impeached
Live Battle Creek.

Saying how 2 Democrats went to his side

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

That's not espionage, that's abuse of power and it's not so much an allegation as a known thing now. Even the republicans aren't denying it, they're just trying to spin it to suit them.

Espionage is spying and espionage in another country wouldn't be an impeachable offence typically because it's something all nations do but threatening to hold relief that was agreed upon in order to try to gain a personal advantage over a rival is an abuse of power..

[Ammi]

...I’m very highly educated...I know words, I have the best words....



....im-peach-ment....

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's not espionage, that's abuse of power and it's not so much an allegation as a known thing now. Even the republicans aren't denying it, they're just trying to spin it to suit them.

Espionage is spying and espionage in another country wouldn't be an impeachable offence typically because it's something all nations do but threatening to hold relief that was agreed upon in order to try to gain a personal advantage over a rival is an abuse of power..

I wasn't saying Trump carried out the espionage, I was saying the allegation was that he asked the Ukrainian president to carry it out

Or at least that's what's being alledged, by an anonymous person who didn't even hear the phone call.

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's only mud slinging if you choose to ignore the facts.

But yes, it will get thrown out because you can't expect 20 republicans to uphold the law when Mitch McConnell is so brazen and proud of the fact that he is planning on flouting the constitution to get a guilty man acquitted.

Republicans and the Right Wing only believe in justice when it benefits them.

The old saying, friends in high places.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

He asked it publicly of China so why is it so hard to believe that he did it privately as well?

[Epic.]

Haha, You're Fired Donald

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He asked it publicly of China so why is it so hard to believe that he did it privately as well?

If he publicly asked China to do it, why would he do it privately with the Ukraine?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If he publicly asked China to do it, why would he do it privately with the Ukraine?

Because he’s a moron who has no idea how anything is supposed to work and does what he wants, when he wants and expects to get away with it

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because he’s a moron who has no idea how anything is supposed to work and does what he wants, when he wants and expects to get away with it

Then why wouldn't he do it publicly?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch.

[Nicky91]

bye bye orange clown


#DemocratsBackIntoPower

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

official investigation not espionage

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch.

It’s true, and this will probably make him more popular.

It’s all bark and no bite.

[Marsh.]

[bots]

it's just highlighted for me what a mess USA politics is in. Listening to the GOP trying to defend Trump is embarrassing

The funny thing is that the American people will probably vote for another 4 years of Trump, and that's democracy.

Clinton was impeached and left with an approval rating higher than any previous president

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Kizzy]

A good day to bury bad news...

As impeachment was being debated, an appeals court delivered a long-awaited*ruling*on the*Affordable Care Act. The court said that the “individual mandate” provision of Obamacare was unconstitutional while punting a broader decision on whether the entire law was valid.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...emocrats-house