[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

It's Bi Sexual in fact.

no

"Layla Moran said she had previously only had relationships with men"


So she started off straight and converted to a lesbian later in life and now she has decided to be a pansexual id imagine as it is sounds a littler edgier

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no

"Layla Moran said she had previously only had relationships with men"


So she started off straight and converted to a lesbian later in life and now she has decided to be a pansexual id imagine as it is sounds a littler edgier

Call it what she now is
Bi Sexual

[The Slim Reaper]

Is a pansexual a happy lesbian as the thread title suggests?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no

"Layla Moran said she had previously only had relationships with men"


So she started off straight and converted to a lesbian later in life and now she has decided to be a pansexual id imagine as it is sounds a littler edgier

No she was a bisexual woman in a relationship with a man.

What kind of stupid logic you have.

[Niamh.]

Just for clarification is Pansexual - bisexual but includes trans people and if that's the case is there a seperate word for straight/gay but include trans men/women and if there is, isn't that transphobic and if there is not isn't pansexual transphobic?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just for clarification is Pansexual - bisexual but includes trans people and if that's the case is there a seperate word for straight/gay but include trans men/women and if there is, isn't that transphobic and if there is not isn't pansexual transphobic?

Of Course the never ending variations
Bi Sexual is her current state.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just for clarification is Pansexual - bisexual but includes trans people and if that's the case is there a seperate word for straight/gay but include trans men/women and if there is, isn't that transphobic and if there is not isn't pansexual transphobic?

I take umbridge with the word 'pansexual' for this reason, really: it throws the blanket assumption that all people who identify as "bisexual" (or have done in the past) are inherently transphobic and unwilling to date people who are/have transitioned.

It's perfectly logical to just say that "bi-sex" means you're willing to date someone between the two biological sexes; it doesn't have anything to do with the construct of gender.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I take umbridge with the word 'pansexual' for this reason, really: it throws the blanket assumption that all people who identify as "bisexual" (or have done in the past) are inherently transphobic and unwilling to date people who are/have transitioned.

It's perfectly logical to just say that "bi-sex" means you're willing to date someone between the two biological sexes; it doesn't have anything to do with the construct of gender.

Amen brother. Being bi really means what it means: being attracted to both sexes, and/or to people who are non-binary. It has nothing to do with how you got that gender in the first place or later on.

And for those who are keep asking the same question: no, us bi people don't have twice has much choice as people only attracted to one gender lmao
If anything I did find it hard to position myself when I was younger.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just for clarification is Pansexual - bisexual but includes trans people and if that's the case is there a seperate word for straight/gay but include trans men/women and if there is, isn't that transphobic and if there is not isn't pansexual transphobic?

It's a load of nonsense, she's bisexual, simple as

Being willing to date transpeople doesn't need a separate label. Some straights, gays, and bis are open to trans, and some are not. They're still straight /gay/bi...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I take umbridge with the word 'pansexual' for this reason, really: it throws the blanket assumption that all people who identify as "bisexual" (or have done in the past) are inherently transphobic and unwilling to date people who are/have transitioned.

It's perfectly logical to just say that "bi-sex" means you're willing to date someone between the two biological sexes; it doesn't have anything to do with the construct of gender.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's a load of nonsense, she's bisexual, simple as

Being willing to date transpeople doesn't need a separate label. Some straights, gays, and bis are open to trans, and some are not. They're still straight /gay/bi...

Yeah, seems more like a label to "Anti" other people or tell everyone how inclusive they are

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Just for clarification is Pansexual - bisexual but includes trans people and if that's the case is there a seperate word for straight/gay but include trans men/women and if there is, isn't that transphobic and if there is not isn't pansexual transphobic?

Pansexual is sexual attraction to the mind, not the body - so usually includes all genders... but not because of their gender

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Pansexual is sexual attraction to the mind, not the body - so usually includes all genders... but not because of their gender

How is that different to bi sexual though? That's basically saying they're attracted to a person's personality, alot of people straight, gay or bi are like that too?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How is that different to bi sexual though? That's basically saying they're attracted to a person's personality, alot of people straight, gay or bi are like that too?

Bi people can be sexually attracted to dick and clit, pans can’t

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Bi people can be sexually attracted to dick and clit, pans can’t

So they dont have sex then?

[smudgie]

Beggar the bliddy labels.
She is happy, that’s all that counts, surely.

[Captain.Remy]

And in the end I'm happy for her whatever or whoever she is. Just be you, go out there and have fun with whoever you find pleasing. And don't put too many labels on yourself.
Bi, gay, straights, trans, whoever, we're all going to hell anyway so

[Liam-]

Turns out that she only came out because a ‘journalist’ from the Mail was going to do it for her and she wanted it to be on her own terms, our media is a disgrace

[Kizzy]

Well I respect that and it makes perfect sense in that context, . With any luck our culture will continue to evolve and less and less young people will feel that stigma.
Of course heterosexuals won't experience that anguish or comprehend how it feels.
An understanding of that struggle and an awareness of how it may impact is enough. We don't have to dismiss all those who haven't experienced this life as some charmed sub group.

[Livia]

We're going to need more labels.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Livia

We're going to need more labels.

Must be really difficult nowadays.
Labels are my pet peeve at the minute.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Must be really difficult nowadays.
Labels are my pet peeve at the minute.

you must be one of them "peevers" I have heard about on LBC

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you must be one of them "peevers" I have heard about on LBC

Busted

[Kizzy]

I always thought that pansexual meant you were attracted to anyone regardless of gender but not in a sexual way too. All other sexualities involve actually having sex, except asexual who aren't attracted to anyone?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I always thought that pansexual meant you were attracted to anyone regardless of gender but not in a sexual way too. All other sexualities involve actually having sex, except asexual who aren't attracted to anyone?

But again, that can apply to everyone. There's plenty of people in the world who are straight but might find themselves attracted to someone other than their preferred gender. Sometimes you'll get a gay person who'll find themselves attracted to someonne they typically wouldn't be.

Again, for me it's just stretching out things to justify what is typically just another label for bisexuality.

[bots]

the only reason anything ever needs to be labelled is so it can be targeted by advertising and marketing, this is no different.