[Shaun]

I could be glib and say that I never had much of a social life anyway but I am fearful of going outside, yes. However, necessities arise and we (mum, brother and I) can't afford to stockpile for 2 weeks, let alone 2 or 3 months... so even the little walks down to the Co-Op, or a drive to ASDA, feel ominous.

Even the little gestures like the Co-op putting a bucket of anti-bac wipes next to all of the baskets for customers to wipe down the handles... don't really assuage anything. It does feel like an invisible, omnipresent threat.

But to go about your normal routine without any concern for the people you come across is just mildly sociopathic.

[Cherie]

I work from home, and am not socialising, or going to the gym so only going out to walk the dog and to get food/petrol so I guess I am pretty much self isolating

[GoldHeart]

Yes unless I have to go out , but I'm wondering what happens after these "15 Days" . The virus isn't going any time soon . What do we do after 15 days? . Just continue to self isolate for a year !? .

[Cherie]

We dont know why many older people are out though, they could be picking up prescriptions, have a medical or dental appointment, need to go to the bank, need food all of which they are allowed to do even during lockdown. Yes some are out for no other reason than to get out, but that’s no reason to tar all with the same brush

[Daniel.]

Yes apart from walks where I don’t go near anyone for long

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We dont know why many older people are out though, they could be picking up prescriptions, have a medical or dental appointment, need to go to the bank, need food all of which they are allowed to do even during lockdown. Yes some are out for no other reason than to get out, but that’s no reason to tar all with the same brush

yes to some older people, having medication with them is very important

[AnnieK]

My dad is alone....all alone, rattling around in a house that was once filled with his family. He lost my mum, we have grown up and moved on, he helped me massively with my son (who incidentally he credits with dragging him out of the fog of depression of losing his wife), he now is allowed no physical contact with his grandson. Above ALL of that though he is a proud man. He worked all his life, played sports all his life, had a social life and now he is reduced to a prisoner in his home. Asking for help is something he has NEVER done before. He is being responsible, he is not going out, I am dropping food off in the porch - unable to give my dad a hug....I can see him declining already - its been 5 days. He tells me he is ok - he is going for a walk at 6am to maintain his fitness before he holes up for the day.

I am so sad for him and I miss him

But yeah - all oldies are bad

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My dad is alone....all alone, rattling around in a house that was once filled with his family. He lost my mum, we have grown up and moved on, he helped me massively with my son (who incidentally he credits with dragging him out of the fog of depression of losing his wife), he now is allowed no physical contact with his grandson. Above ALL of that though he is a proud man. He worked all his life, played sports all his life, had a social life and now he is reduced to a prisoner in his home. Asking for help is something he has NEVER done before. He is being responsible, he is not going out, I am dropping food off in the porch - unable to give my dad a hug....I can see him declining already - its been 5 days. He tells me he is ok - he is going for a walk at 6am to maintain his fitness before he holes up for the day.

I am so sad for him and I miss him

But yeah - all oldies are bad

The lack of empathy for the elderly really is disappointing to say the least.

Luckily my own parents are still relatively young, mid 60's and in good health. I worry about my father in law though as he's older and has a lot of under lying conditions going on too. We've been dropping in shopping and books to him but no going in his house or any sort of physical contact either. I'm just glad he's got his little dog for company

[Daniel.]

I generally agree with most in this thread but I work in HMV and on Monday before I went into isolation, most of my customers were older people. One said he was stocking up on films to keep him entertained but the mind boggles, its a non essential shop.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I could be glib and say that I never had much of a social life anyway but I am fearful of going outside, yes. However, necessities arise and we (mum, brother and I) can't afford to stockpile for 2 weeks, let alone 2 or 3 months... so even the little walks down to the Co-Op, or a drive to ASDA, feel ominous.

Even the little gestures like the Co-op putting a bucket of anti-bac wipes next to all of the baskets for customers to wipe down the handles... don't really assuage anything. It does feel like an invisible, omnipresent threat.

But to go about your normal routine without any concern for the people you come across is just mildly sociopathic.

100% this.

I mean, it's good to try and retain a sense of normality/routine but you need to be very careful in doing so.

[Babayaro.]

I'm in Morrison's right now (work related*) and there's just a weird atmosphere around. You can tell everyone is on edge.


*I do not work at Morrisons

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My dad is alone....all alone, rattling around in a house that was once filled with his family. He lost my mum, we have grown up and moved on, he helped me massively with my son (who incidentally he credits with dragging him out of the fog of depression of losing his wife), he now is allowed no physical contact with his grandson. Above ALL of that though he is a proud man. He worked all his life, played sports all his life, had a social life and now he is reduced to a prisoner in his home. Asking for help is something he has NEVER done before. He is being responsible, he is not going out, I am dropping food off in the porch - unable to give my dad a hug....I can see him declining already - its been 5 days. He tells me he is ok - he is going for a walk at 6am to maintain his fitness before he holes up for the day.

I am so sad for him and I miss him

But yeah - all oldies are bad

[DouglasS]

I’ve just come down with a cough and fever so I’m pretty sure I’ve got it. Thankfully did two big shops last week, so I am self isolating for 7 days As I live alone (on day 2)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I’ve just come down with a cough and fever so I’m pretty sure I’ve got it. Thankfully did two big shops last week, so I am self isolating for 7 days As I live alone (on day 2)

Hope you're ok, you're doing the right thing though

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Hope you're ok, you're doing the right thing though

have you digitally tested your temperature?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

have you digitally tested your temperature?

Why would she need to do that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why would she need to do that?

to confirm he is running a temperature, often when you are you can feel cold. feeling hot is not a good guide

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My dad is alone....all alone, rattling around in a house that was once filled with his family. He lost my mum, we have grown up and moved on, he helped me massively with my son (who incidentally he credits with dragging him out of the fog of depression of losing his wife), he now is allowed no physical contact with his grandson. Above ALL of that though he is a proud man. He worked all his life, played sports all his life, had a social life and now he is reduced to a prisoner in his home. Asking for help is something he has NEVER done before. He is being responsible, he is not going out, I am dropping food off in the porch - unable to give my dad a hug....I can see him declining already - its been 5 days. He tells me he is ok - he is going for a walk at 6am to maintain his fitness before he holes up for the day.

I am so sad for him and I miss him

But yeah - all oldies are bad

That's very sad and unfortunate, but who said all oldies are bad??? .

But people like Stanley Johnson isn't helping, people probably think if he's not listening to his son then why should they type of attitude .

But some old people are just doing essential stuff like grocery shopping , medication etc.
But really doctors should deliver medication to them .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

to confirm he is running a temperature, often when you are you can feel cold. feeling hot is not a good guide

Niamh didn't mention having a temperature. She is also a lady.

[Cherie]

Capri could offer a delivery service to help keep elders off the street

[Livia]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My dad is alone....all alone, rattling around in a house that was once filled with his family. He lost my mum, we have grown up and moved on, he helped me massively with my son (who incidentally he credits with dragging him out of the fog of depression of losing his wife), he now is allowed no physical contact with his grandson. Above ALL of that though he is a proud man. He worked all his life, played sports all his life, had a social life and now he is reduced to a prisoner in his home. Asking for help is something he has NEVER done before. He is being responsible, he is not going out, I am dropping food off in the porch - unable to give my dad a hug....I can see him declining already - its been 5 days. He tells me he is ok - he is going for a walk at 6am to maintain his fitness before he holes up for the day.

I am so sad for him and I miss him

But yeah - all oldies are bad

Yeah, the selfish generation, right?

Bless your Dad x

Fingers crossed everyone will come through this unscathed and things can return to normal. We've brought my grandmother up, she lives in Muswell Hill, so as soon as there was mention of a problem my Dad went and collected her. Otherwise she'd have been in the same position as your Dad, and a lot of other older people.

[Tom4784]

Give it a week or two and most of us will be even if we aren't displaying symptoms ourselves. Remember the guidelines, if anyone that lives with you shows symptoms, everyone in the household needs to self-isolate too.

[Livia]

Actually on topic.... I am not self isolating, I am social distancing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually on topic.... I am not self isolating, I am social distancing.

Yeah same, still going in to work but there are only 2 of his in here and it's really quiet and we're keeping our distance. Gav also is still at work for now but they also have introduced strict regulations. Luke is at home and he's been getting work sent from school everyday and luckily we live on a beach so he's getting out for a walk everyday with the dog. He's been great about it all actually