[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They cut the nursing bursary and replaced it with a loan... Who is going to go £30k into debt for a £13 an hour starting salary? And even fewer now that we know how nurses will be treated in a crisis - like soldiers/cannon fodder whilst justifying it by calling them heroes and clapping. Meh.

Nasty Johnson PM

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Nasty Johnson PM

It was actually scrapped under Cameron (and the real force behind it was Osborne). Seems like a lifetime ago.

It was partly restored but at a lesser level.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It was actually scrapped under Cameron (and the real force behind it was Osborne). Seems like a lifetime ago.

It was partly restored but at a lesser level.

They have advertised a 5,000 bursary stating in Sept for a range of posts for a few months, Radiographers, OTs, Physios, nurses

Nursing should never have become a degree based profession, thats where the issues started

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Nasty Johnson PM

Its Boris who has just restored the bursary after it was removed by Osborne

[Cherie]

The bursary is back for NHS England anyway

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Its Boris who has just restored the bursary after it was removed by Osborne

Originally Posted by Cherie

The bursary is back for NHS England anyway

Partially, it's less than it was before.

Its also HALF of the Scottish bursary.

It would barely cover student accommodation and because of placements, it's very hard for student nurses to have a part time job... For people who aren't being supported by a partner or parents it's basically impossible. It's a joke.

[Tom4784]

**** no, He'll ride the wave of gammon appreciation and he and the rest of the Tories will swiftly forget about the NHS as soon as this is over. The Tories do not care about the NHS, they want the pharmaceutical money that pollutes US politics.

Remember that Boris was happy to sacrifice people in the hopes that the survivors would develop herd immunity, the man's callous as ****.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

**** no, He'll ride the wave of gammon appreciation and he and the rest of the Tories will swiftly forget about the NHS as soon as this is over. The Tories do not care about the NHS, they want the pharmaceutical money that pollutes US politics.

Remember that Boris was happy to sacrifice people in the hopes that the survivors would develop herd immunity, the man's callous as ****.

No that was his Scientific adviser

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

No that was his Scientific adviser

And he decided to follow that advice until he relented from backlash because the rest of the world's experts were saying something different.

He followed that advice because it suited his needs. He chose to implement it before he took it back. He gladly made a decision that would have cost us thousands of more lives and he was glad to do it.

Never forget that, never try to twist that unto something else because it is what it is. He let his true face show at that point.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And he decided to follow that advice until he relented from backlash because the rest of the world's experts were saying something different.

He followed that advice because it suited his needs. He chose to implement it before he took it back. He gladly made a decision that would have cost us thousands of more lives and he was glad to do it.

Never forget that, never try to twist that unto something else because it is what it is. He let his true face show at that point.

Yes a Political Error.

[Withano]

No lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes I am sure the leader of a main political party has no idea how valuable the NHS is

Just like when Blair/Brown and labour were astonished by how much the economy mattered when the financial crash happened. It had never occurred to them prior to this...

Looks like the sale to the USA big pharma is off

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Looks like the sale to the USA big pharma is off

I agree but mainly because I think it's going to take the US healthcare system years to recover itself after this, so the international pharma colonisation attempts will be on hold.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree but mainly because I think it's going to take the US healthcare system years to recover itself after this, so the international pharma colonisation attempts will be on hold.

I am still going to clap Pfizer and J and J on Wednesday night tho