[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

| doubt many people know

how many people die per day, week, month and year in the UK during a regular year and of what

so i cant imagine these people fully understand the figures quoted

(and oh, its the clickbait independent "newspaper")

It's 1500+ per day and a lot of them are elderly people dying of respiratory failure but if that respiratory failure happens to be caused by Covid, its somehow more important. For some reason.

[Denver]

It's just guess work and they would have to do autopsies to be certain rather then just saying it's because of Covid

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here, can people try to stick to the thread topic please?

[bots]

when anyone dies in old age, they usually pick an existing diagnosed issue as the cause, which usually is the most significant of many issues. Without testing and proper diagnosis, it's always a best guess on the certificate

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

when anyone dies in old age, they usually pick an existing diagnosed issue as the cause, which usually is the most significant of many issues. Without testing and proper diagnosis, it's always a best guess on the certificate

That's often the case really, I believe my mum's official cause of death was pneumonia (as that's what she was taken into hospital for) but the reality was cascading multiple organ failure due to her liver giving up.

[GoldHeart]

18,000 deaths that we know of, just think how many more there is that we don't know about in the UK

[bots]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

18,000 deaths that we know of, just think how many more there is that we don't know about in the UK

the 18k figure is the legally required registered figure ... so it will be pretty accurate. Dying home alone with no relatives would be about the only exception

[Trouble1321075]

The devil is in the details of the numbers but at face value i think its fair to conclude that C19 is at least partially responsible for statistical anomalies.

I think saying that X amount of people died last year during the same time period and therefore any difference between that number and the current ones is due to the outbreak is an over simplification.
There are other mitigating factors that need to be included as modifiers to get a more accurate count. If that was not done then the 40k is no more valuable than throwing a dart at a board and picking whatever random number it hit.

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