[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

There was tons of reshoots, and last I heard some new footage will be shot too.

Yes there sure was.


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[user104658]

They're blatantly rebooting with the Flash movie anyway, though I personally suspect we'll see more of Caville as Superman, despite rumours of him leaving.

[Oliver_W]

I love Caville as Supes. I do hope he sticks around for a long time!

While I'd love the CGI to improve, it doesn't personally bother me, I just know it'll be used as a stick to beat it with


I'm disappointed the dude who plays Cyborg is coming for Geoff Johns - GJ is one of my favourite comicbook writers, so I automatically take his side and disbelieve Cyborg apparently Snyder planned for him to be much more of a main character, and Joss Whedon changed that, so I can see why he's unhappy! Especially as a relatively new actor.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I love Caville as Supes. I do hope he sticks around for a long time!

While I'd love the CGI to improve, it doesn't personally bother me, I just know it'll be used as a stick to beat it with


I'm disappointed the dude who plays Cyborg is coming for Geoff Johns - GJ is one of my favourite comicbook writers, so I automatically take his side and disbelieve Cyborg apparently Snyder planned for him to be much more of a main character, and Joss Whedon changed that, so I can see why he's unhappy! Especially as a relatively new actor.

Based on the trailer it looks like a lot of his backstory was filmed by Snyder... there's basically none of it in the original JW cut - it's briefly outlined in a conversation .

[Tony Montana]

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[Tony Montana]

Looks really cool. And it looks like they've done Leto's Joker justice.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

Looks really cool. And it looks like they've done Leto's Joker justice.

The one thing that bothers me is that they did some small reshoots with Leto, apparently... And it seems pretty clear that they've been done to shift this version of the joker more in line with the (vastly more popular) Phoenix-joker from the MRA Joker film. It is a better version of the character, but I wonder how they'll make it a smooth transition with the established Leto joker... Will it make sense? Or will it be obvious retconning, and thus, jarring?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

the MRA Joker film.

... Really?

Step away from the internet and get some sunlight

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

... Really?



Step away from the internet and get some sunlight

It panders to the fantasy of basement-dwelling cucks and it completely misses the point of the character. Taking "the avatar of chaos" and turning him into "a frustrated sadsack with mummy issues".

Its a good FILM but it's a terrible version of The Joker and you know it

[Smithy]

4 hours

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

4 hours

The runtime doesn't really matter as it's not a theatrical release, it's purely on digital streaming... Watch it as a 4 hour movie, two 2-hour movies, four 1-hour episodes... .

Is it being released as a 4 hour movie? I do think it might have been better split into a 4-episode limited series but as above... That would only be to avoid the "omg it's so long" confusion. How to watch it would still be viewer's choice.

Its unlikely I'll watch it as one 4-hour block unless the kids are back to school (because I literally don't HAVE a 4-hour uninterrupted block of time ), but I probably would watch it in one sitting otherwise.

[Nicky91]

keep this 4 hour long piece of trash pls

[Tom4784]

I do think it's gonna be a massive disappointment. People are forgetting that Zack Snyder handled BvS (which I liked at the time, but not so much these days), and Man of Steel was only decent.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I do think it's gonna be a massive disappointment. People are forgetting that Zack Snyder handled BvS (which I liked at the time, but not so much these days), and Man of Steel was only decent.

It looks significantly better than the original cut, even just in visual terms so I think it'll be at the very least interesting to compare and contrast.

[Tom4784]

The aesthetics were never the issue with Snyder's offerings, tbh. I just don't know if there's actually anything to work with to create a good cohesive film, especially when it looks like they're just throwing everything into it.

The original Justice League felt overly long and it was under two hours, I think this will end up being a slog.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The aesthetics were never the issue with Snyder's offerings, tbh. I just don't know if there's actually anything to work with to create a good cohesive film, especially when it looks like they're just throwing everything into it.

The original Justice League felt overly long and it was under two hours, I think this will end up being a slog.

Yes Hard to watch in one go
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I watched in 2 halfs.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Hard to watch in one go

uses 4.6 of my Hard Drive on SkyHD





I watched in 2 halfs.

I watched it in THREE goes

The only bits I could have done without were the lovey-dovey sequence with Superman and Lois Lane plus that Batman dream section


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I watched it in THREE goes

The only bits I could have done without were the lovey-dovey sequence with Superman and Lois Lane plus that Batman dream section


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I don’t mind Supes and Lois really,it’s how they showcase his humanity but that said they probably highlighted it because it’s a huge part of what leads to the “injustice” plotline (Superman going dark after the death of Lois) and that’s also what the Batman dream sequence was setting up. I do actually agree though that, as it’s most likely not happening and WB has gone in a different direction with DC, I think the future dream sequence could have been cut. All it does is tease a movie that will never exist.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don’t mind Supes and Lois really,it’s how they showcase his humanity but that said they probably highlighted it because it’s a huge part of what leads to the “injustice” plotline (Superman going dark after the death of Lois) and that’s also what the Batman dream sequence was setting up. I do actually agree though that, as it’s most likely not happening and WB has gone in a different direction with DC, I think the future dream sequence could have been cut. All it does is tease a movie that will never exist.

Well being cynical... given that the new version is getting rave reviews.. even the IMDB viewer ratings are far better ..

I just wondered if MONEY will talk and influence the decisions ??


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[Oliver_W]

I can be a bit of a book purist (damn you Peej for leaving out Bombadil ) so it took a while for me to get over the fact the Snyderverse isn't exactly like the comics someone suggested that the Synderverse fits better into the Dark Knight Returns comics line more than the "main", which it totally does.

At the end of the day ... none of it "actually" happened and I can either enjoy seeing a visual representation of something I like to read ... or I can bitch about it

That's a long winded way of saying I don't exactly care which one turns out to be better, but i'm glad Snyder gets to finish his story, especially when a)he left because his daughter took her own life and b)he was replaced by a Hollywood hack Whedon, he turned out to be a complete twat.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I can be a bit of a book purist (damn you Peej for leaving out Bombadil ) so it took a while for me to get over the fact the Snyderverse isn't exactly like the comics someone suggested that the Synderverse fits better into the Dark Knight Returns comics line more than the "main", which it totally does.

At the end of the day ... none of it "actually" happened and I can either enjoy seeing a visual representation of something I like to read ... or I can bitch about it

That's a long winded way of saying I don't exactly care which one turns out to be better, but i'm glad Snyder gets to finish his story, especially when a)he left because his daughter took her own life and b)he was replaced by a Hollywood hack Whedon, he turned out to be a complete twat.

I randomly saw ol' Xander (Nicholas Brendon) in a film earlier tonight and decided to look him up with all of the domestic abuse allegations etc... but instead ended up going down a Whedon rabbit hole as, apparently, a tonne of people have come out with some not-so-great stuff about him very recently starting with the actress who played Cordelia in Buffy and Angel... but now quite a few other Buffy cast and crew, plus a few from the Justice League production (including Gal Gadot) have confirmed he's... umm... not great to work with.

The most concerning is that there was an "unofficial" rule amongt set staff on Buffy that they'd make sure he was never alone in a room with the actress who played Dawn... who was 15 at the time . Doesn't elaborate other than to say he had made "inappropriate comments" around her and they decided to be on the safe side. Worrying!

Buffy herself SMG also made some vague supportive comments and has said that "she'll always be proud to be associated with the name Buffy Summers, but does not want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon."


So yeah... I feel like PURELY to stick it to Whedon, it's good that a version of JL is being made that hasn't been touched by him. Snyder has basically said that he butchered it, right down to leaving entire scenes out simply because they couldn't get the visuals to gel with his "newly filmed stuff" that had been done on different tech, but he refused to cut his own new scenes. I STRONGLY suspect that this is why a lot of the CGI is so poor.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So yeah... I feel like PURELY to stick it to Whedon, it's good that a version of JL is being made that hasn't been touched by him. Snyder has basically said that he butchered it, right down to leaving entire scenes out simply because they couldn't get the visuals to gel with his "newly filmed stuff" that had been done on different tech, but he refused to cut his own new scenes. I STRONGLY suspect that this is why a lot of the CGI is so poor.

I hadn't thought of the new tech thing, movie making technology moves on pretty quick, it makes sense even in the relatively short amount of time the original footage was filmed ago, new stuff might not gel.

I've never heard anything really bad about Snyder. For a while I thought he might be the brother of Scott Snyder, who wrote Batman and JL comics. I mean ... This scene looks like it's roasting BvS for all the destruction their fight caused with no concern for citizens

Spoiler:

But apparently they're not related and it's just a coincidence!

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The most concerning is that there was an "unofficial" rule amongt set staff on Buffy that they'd make sure he was never alone in a room with the actress who played Dawn... who was 15 at the time . Doesn't elaborate other than to say he had made "inappropriate comments" around her and they decided to be on the safe side. Worrying!

I guess the USA has different rules to the UK, but I occasionally do child protection work with the BBC, and kids under 16 literally aren't allowed to be left alone with anyone who's not a licensed chaperone; that includes directors and older actors. And that's from the time they're dropped off by their parents (or whoever) until they're picked up.

So as much as I'd like to Whedon-bash, that particular rule could have been an official one?

[user104658]

To be "fair" the accusations against Whedon aren't criminal in nature, more just about how awful he was to work for. Basically that he'd have his "favourites" who were "in" and then anyone else, he would treat like dirt/mock/belittle/gaslight and also you could be one of "the in group" one day, but then if you did something he didn't like, you'd be "out" until he decided otherwise. Has been described as running a "toxic workplace" basically and it seems that it's an ongoing thing, as people on his shows have said it was like that in the early 2000's and now people who worked on JL have said it was still like that when he took over there (so 2016-ish I guess?).

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've never heard anything really bad about Snyder. For a while I thought he might be the brother of Scott Snyder, who wrote Batman and JL comics. I mean ... This scene looks like it's roasting BvS for all the destruction their fight caused with no concern for citizens

Isn't that basically the whole plot of BvS though? Batman is not happy with Supes because his battle with Zod at the end of Man of Steel caused massive collateral damage in Metropolis, including destroying a Wayne building and killing civilians and staff... Which is why he decides Superman is dangerous and has to go. For his own fight with him he specifically lures him to an abandoned part of Gotham.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Isn't that basically the whole plot of BvS though? Batman is not happy with Supes because his battle with Zod at the end of Man of Steel caused massive collateral damage in Metropolis, including destroying a Wayne building and killing civilians and staff... Which is why he decides Superman is dangerous and has to go. For his own fight with him he specifically lures him to an abandoned part of Gotham.

I can't remember BvS that well, so I'm happy to eat my words if I remembered wrong and Batman at least had some concern for civilians.