[joeysteele]

I don't wish to rerun the EU vote.
However the vote itself was a UK wide vote and in that, the result is valid, although a narrow margin.
Even of all who voted.

However, it was the devising of the vote that was at fault, which is the cause of division in part, in my view.

For such a major change of the UKs past and future.
One condition should have been, 50% + one vote needed from all eligible to vote.
To make it valid.

and/or
Another condition, with the fact the UK is made up of 4 Nations.
It should have been 3 had to vote the same way to validate the referendum.

It's irrelevant now however with England having the massively disproportionate share of voters in the UK..
It was always likely the case that however the vote went in England.
England would only really decide this referendum.
Even had Wales voted remain other than leave.

So with Scotland voting by double figure margins to remain along with Northern Ireland too.
It's no wonder divisions, suspicion and even dismay have just not gone away.

However the blame lies with the then PM Cameron and his failure to ensure the fairest possible vote.

You can't have that, when you create the scenario where only the biggest of population and voters of 4 Nations, are able to wipe out the votes and results of the other 3 Nations.

As to Johnson in Scotland.
I think he may secretly want Scotland to leave the UK.
Him going there will for sure, in my view, only likely help to hasten that cause.

[arista]

"As to Johnson in Scotland.
I think he may secretly want Scotland to leave the UK."


No way

Ch4HDnews is live in Scotland

[arista]

The Big Donor
to the Conservatives
Stuart Wheeler aged 85, has died

[arista]

[arista]

A Remix

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

If only he'd heed that good advice.
Doing something decent for once politically.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Similar charmers to those who stood on the border telling people coming from England to 'stay the **** out'

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Josy and my finest moment

[MTVN]

Similar charmers to those who stood on the border telling people coming from England to 'stay the **** out'

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Similar charmers to those who stood on the border telling people coming from England to 'stay the **** out'

Josy and my finest moment

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Similar charmers to those who stood on the border telling people coming from England to 'stay the **** out'

You must understand that was fine as they were Scottish..not English...all hell would break loose if it were reversed of course...

[arista]

[joeysteele]

I can't see what way he can use the virus as a positive political weapon for him or the Union.
He's taken England away from and behind the other UK Nations in dealing with it.

Nicola Sturgeon has no reason to fear him on that one.
He has shown how inept he is all through on this pandemic.
His crawling Ministers too.

England's record on the pandemic is at best shameful.

Nicola Sturgeon has shown endless compassion to the bereaved and massive regret on the losses of lives to this.
She's also been totally upfront and honest with her Nation.

Of all the UK, she has been the ONLY leader I'd listen to in the context of trusting them.
Certainly never Johnson, who,with his Ministers, has presided over nothing much more than deceit all through with the citizens of England and the rest of the UK.

Rishi Sunak totally I exclude from that last statement, I wish him well however in carrying on his good and right work..
As I fear, he's going to be reigned well in soon sadly from his more understanding and fairer stance.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Just shows that Nicola Sturgeon gives an example of how often good things come in little bundles.

Rather than from possibly more like towering bully boys.

[arista]