[Tom4784]

Racists with subhuman intelligence getting mad over a dance on a talent show? And they are often the ones that accuse others of being snowflakes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jim takes down Diversity and talks about the performance. starts at 1.24

Youtube video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jim takes down Diversity and talks about the performance. starts at 1.24

Youtube video

I don't think Jim Davidson doing a puffy-red-faced racist rant on YouTube is going to win you any arguments LT.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jim takes down Diversity and talks about the performance. starts at 1.24

Youtube video

Sounds about white

[Liam-]

One day black people will be able to do something meaningful without being told they’re doing it the wrong way or that it’s ‘not the right time or place’ and I can’t wait

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

One day black people will be able to do something meaningful without being told they’re doing it the wrong way or that it’s ‘not the right time or place’ and I can’t wait

Has anyone ever done anything meaningful on BGT though?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has anyone ever done anything meaningful on BGT though?

Question of the thread.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has anyone ever done anything meaningful on BGT though?

What has that got to do with anything I said?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has anyone ever done anything meaningful on BGT though?

They have now... and look at the meltdown, what?... Why are you trying to make me think!? It's Saturday night ffs!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...George Floyd had freedoms as well ...but I guess that the power of a performance that expressed ...No, enough please...was overridden by...no, not on our watch, please...express that life taken in your own time and not on our entertainment watch...how much more can we really take of this...?...messing with BGT for goodness sake...

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They have now... and look at the meltdown, what?... Why are you trying to make me think!? It's Saturday night ffs!

I will preface this by saying I don't watch BGT. I think it's pretty much the worst brand of trash, and I actually *like* a lot of trash TV.

However, in general... I'm totally unapologetic in saying that, yes, people need headspace and escapism sometimes. It is healthy or even essential to be able to "switch off" sometimes if you don't want to end up hopping off down the depression/anxiety rabbit hole and I don't think anyone should feel bad for insisting that - as vitally important as many issues are - it's not a case at all of meaningful issues vs frivolous entertainment with the entertainment "obviously" always coming second to current social issues and politics. The balance is important, we're all bombarded with hard-hitting politics all week long and... yeah... if people want to eat some fish fingers and waffles, switch off their brains and watch dumb Saturday night telly without it too being full of political messages then I will fully defend their right to do just that.

Like I said originally I'm aware that there may well be a double standard going on, with people not being bothered about other political messages and suddenly kicking off over this, and that's another discussion BUT on the basic premise of people having the right to NOT always want to engage with politics 24/7, and in fact access to "simple escapism" being an essential aspect of good mental health.

[Ammi]

....hmmmm, I’m not really why you’re quoting my post there, TS...or what you’re unapologetic for...I honestly don’t know what your post is referring to in relation to any other post tbh...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I will preface this by saying I don't watch BGT. I think it's pretty much the worst brand of trash, and I actually *like* a lot of trash TV.

However, in general... I'm totally unapologetic in saying that, yes, people need headspace and escapism sometimes. It is healthy or even essential to be able to "switch off" sometimes if you don't want to end up hopping off down the depression/anxiety rabbit hole and I don't think anyone should feel bad for insisting that - as vitally important as many issues are - it's not a case at all of meaningful issues vs frivolous entertainment with the entertainment "obviously" always coming second to current social issues and politics. The balance is important, we're all bombarded with hard-hitting politics all week long and... yeah... if people want to eat some fish fingers and waffles, switch off their brains and watch dumb Saturday night telly without it too being full of political messages then I will fully defend their right to do just that.

Like I said originally I'm aware that there may well be a double standard going on, with people not being bothered about other political messages and suddenly kicking off over this, and that's another discussion BUT on the basic premise of people having the right to NOT always want to engage with politics 24/7, and in fact access to "simple escapism" being an essential aspect of good mental health.

Tosh... nobody is 'bombarded' with anything we aren't tied to a chair and forced to watch thing's. We have a choice to consume as much or as little as we want.
Personally I think that the contemporary issues of the day do at times spill over into 'light' entertainment. .. during such a pivotal moment in history it's almost inevitable.

You can sit there with your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears if you want, thankfully the majority of people support the arts and their contribution to societal mood.

I will fully defend an artists right to express their strength of feeling and a broacasters right to air it.
If we don't see these issues from different angles and perspectives that's when it will affect mental health.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

One day black people will be able to do something meaningful without being told they’re doing it the wrong way or that it’s ‘not the right time or place’ and I can’t wait

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Ugh Saturday nights trash gammon tv... that's what people want on a saturday night? That guy was right, the revolution will not be televised :/

[Livia]

He had the freedom to take that piece of Americana on TV at peak time, people have the freedom to complain if they didn't like it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

He had the freedom to take that piece of Americana on TV at peak time, people have the freedom to complain if they didn't like it.

Americana... Are all reactions to crimes to be contained in the countries they happen in then?

You dont have to like it, but what grounds would you have to make a formal complaint about it?

[Ammi]

...George Floyd had freedoms as well ...but I guess that the power of a performance that expressed ...No, enough please...was overridden by...no, not on our watch, please...express that life taken in your own time and not on our entertainment watch...how much more can we really take of this...?...messing with BGT for goodness sake...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id imagine Simon was raging.

His own show promoting the end of Capitalism and closing all prisons and letting criminals and roam free

[Tom4784]

I reject the whole 'people need an escape' angle tbh. It's complete white privilege to want a 'break' from hearing about racism. Black people don't get a break, they have to live it. Black people in America have to deal with the fact that they can be shot to death while sleeping in bed, or playing a game with their nephew in their own Living Room or being shot by an officer who has wandered into their apartment and killed them because the officer was in the wrong department. The UK is not so innocent when it comes to brutality either.

If people get tired of hearing about racism and inequality in general, they should probably appreciate the fact that it doesn't affect them and the 'worst' they have to deal with is simply hearing and acknowledging that such inequality exists.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Black people in America have to deal with the fact that they can be shot to death while sleeping in bed

If you're referring to Breonna Taylor, there's some misinformatino there.

Obvious she shouldn't have been killed -being part of a drug ring doesn't carry the death sentence- it seems she was in her hallway at the time. Not that that makes it any better.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If you're referring to Breonna Taylor, there's some misinformatino there.

Obvious she shouldn't have been killed -being part of a drug ring doesn't carry the death sentence- it seems she was in her hallway at the time. Not that that makes it any better.

Kind of irrelevant, as is the drug ring thing since it stinks of attempting to justify her death as her being in the wrong.

They were in bed, and they got out because of the police and then she was shot to death.

[Cherie]

Its probably people with young kids who were just sat down to have a nice evening and then had to field a barrage of questions, nobody knows why people complain, people complain about alot of things,(ask the mods ) its not really up to us to judge

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I reject the whole 'people need an escape' angle tbh. It's complete white privilege to want a 'break' from hearing about racism. Black people don't get a break, they have to live it. Black people in America have to deal with the fact that they can be shot to death while sleeping in bed, or playing a game with their nephew in their own Living Room or being shot by an officer who has wandered into their apartment and killed them because the officer was in the wrong department. The UK is not so innocent when it comes to brutality either.

If people get tired of hearing about racism and inequality in general, they should probably appreciate the fact that it doesn't affect them and the 'worst' they have to deal with is simply hearing and acknowledging that such inequality exists.

That's why I can't even be bothered to argue with people sometimes because they'll never understood or get it .

Idiots go around saying "all lives Matter" , because they're too stupid to realise equality Doesn't exist for everyone , they don't comprehend the struggles in their little pea size brain .

I also find it fascinating that people continue to blame BLM , yet there's actual hate groups and terrorist groups out there being shrugged off / ignored. White superamacy ,KKK etc you name .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's why I can't even be bothered to argue with people sometimes because they'll never understood or get it .

Idiots go around saying "all lives Matter" , because they're too stupid to realise equality Doesn't exist for everyone , they don't comprehend the struggles in their little pea size brain .

I also find it fascinating that people continue to blame BLM , yet there's actual hate groups and terrorist groups out there being shrugged off / ignored. White superamacy ,KKK etc you name .

[Denver]

Only racists complained