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Jessica. · 30-09-2020, 09:46 AM

Not at all, it must be exciting though

user104658 · 30-09-2020, 10:02 AM

Don't get me wrong a lot of it is quite impressive and a lot of fun, but it's the same as any magician... it's psychological illusions and purely for entertainment. For me, as with magicians, the fun is in trying to figure out how the "trick" is done.

Zizu · 30-09-2020, 10:05 AM

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Don't get me wrong a lot of it is quite impressive and a lot of fun, but it's the same as any magician... it's psychological illusions and purely for entertainment. For me, as with magicians, the fun is in trying to figure out how the "trick" is done.

They get thousands ( even millions ) out of gullible/ susceptible / vulnerable people though .. that’s the tragedy

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Liam- · 30-09-2020, 10:03 AM

Sorry Mr ‘two dimensions’

user104658 · 30-09-2020, 10:06 AM

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Sorry Mr ‘two dimensions’

Multi-dimensional theory is based in very real science

. Someone's nan claiming to be having a chat with your great uncle from World War 2 is ITV2 afternoon telly.

Liam- · 30-09-2020, 10:08 AM

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Multi-dimensional theory is based in very real science

. Someone's nan claiming to be having a chat with your great uncle from World War 2 is ITV2 afternoon telly.

You know what, for someone that claims to want to be able to have free, open and amicable debates, you spend a lot of your time mocking and taking down to people for beliefs and opinions that don’t align with yours

Zizu · 30-09-2020, 10:28 AM

https://www.thrillist.com/amphtml/cu...e-forer-effect

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Josy · 30-09-2020, 03:59 PM

I believe in residual energies

LaLaLand · 30-09-2020, 05:45 PM

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I believe in residual energies

This really.

I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.

I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.

Zizu · 30-09-2020, 06:31 PM

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This really.

I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.

I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.

Google ‘ cold reading’

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LaLaLand · 30-09-2020, 08:10 PM

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Google ‘ cold reading’

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None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around.

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

Zizu · 30-09-2020, 08:22 PM

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None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around.

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??

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Ninastar · 30-09-2020, 07:39 PM

I do, but only certain things. Had stuff happen to me. Not fun and I think I’m a little scarred from it honestly. Can’t watch anything paranormal/ghost related

LaLaLand · 01-10-2020, 12:23 AM

A really comforting "experience" I had I remember so vividly was when I was about 12 years old.

I was lying on the sofa one night watching wrestling on Sky and my lovely dog that I'd had my whole life and grew up with had passed away a few days before at the grand old age of 14. My sister was upstairs in her room and my parents were out somewhere, think at a relatives, so there was only me downstairs at home.

Anyway, my dog used to sleep in front of the back door in the kitchen on his bed and when he was dreaming and did that galloping thing dogs do his claws would bang and scratch on the metal bin in the kitchen next to him, and made a really loud, distinct sound.

Anyway, I was lying there and "the noise" happened...

Didn't scare me at all it was comforting in a way if anything to hear it, was as if he was just popping in to say he's alright or something, like a nice "goodbye". Remember giggling after it happened. Bless him.

joeysteele · 01-10-2020, 12:23 PM

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

Zizu · 01-10-2020, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

You make some fair points ...

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention

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user104658 · 01-10-2020, 02:23 PM

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Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

joeysteele · 01-10-2020, 02:50 PM

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For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

user104658 · 02-10-2020, 08:16 PM

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Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

If ghosts aren't real, they aren't real... they're not real for some people and not for others; that's just called imagination.

Zizu · 01-10-2020, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Totally agree ..

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