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bots · 20-10-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Prime example of my earier point... Do you really think any regional lock down will keep Covid out of SE and SW?

Explain how regional lock down works for businesses... they keep trading but only in Manchester? The rest of the country cannot access goods and services from tier 3 areas?

well it's been kept down so far pretty successfully.... My feeling is that there is more "natural" social distancing in the SW and SE and now people are more careful it's even more pronounced.

I was due to go up to Manchester in just over a week for a family event which I'm not going to now ... that's how we keep infections down and stop the transfer.

Kizzy · 20-10-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well it's been kept down so far pretty successfully.... My feeling is that there is more "natural" social distancing in the SW and SE and now people are more careful it's even more pronounced.

I was due to go up to Manchester in just over a week for a family event which I'm not going to now ... that's how we keep infections down and stop the transfer.

It's been kept down across the country we've all been under the same measures, this is the anticipated 2nd wave even 'natural' social distancing won't be enough...( whatever that is) even in the SE/SW they have to work, shop, live in multi generational households. Do you think covid gets so far down the M1 and stops?..

I'm loving these sanctimonious sounding comments on how you feel that people in some areas are somehow better equipped to deal with this.
Are you suggesting that us northern thickies only have ourselves to blame?

joeysteele · 20-10-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Prime example of my earier point... Do you really think any regional lock down will keep Covid out of SE and SW?

Explain how regional lock down works for businesses... they keep trading but only in Manchester? The rest of the country cannot access goods and services from tier 3 areas?

They did say, the infection rates were rising everywhere.

Not so much at present but still rising.

Of course you're right, it can't be kept at bay in regional lockdowns.

Kate! · 20-10-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver

From what I gather is Burham wanted an extra £5m 9f what was on offer and wouldn't back down so Boris forced locksown and got petty by offering less then half

You're right. Boris did get petty and really pathetic by offering the paltry 22. Might as well have spat in Andys face the contempt he showed. I used to like Boris. My eyes are now well and truly open. He is a despicable man. Shame on him.

reece(: · 20-10-2020, 04:46 PM

The North will remember, I don’t know how he thinks any of these power grabs will show him in a favourable light following this crisis.

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:48 PM

...I don’t know what to say about someone who would do that to the people he’s serving...is this to make some kind of point with Andy Burnham...?...he’s prepared to ‘punish’ and put people into poverty...

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:49 PM

....horrendous is not even a word that could describe him...

joeysteele · 20-10-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

....horrendous is not even a word that could describe him...

I'm starting to think there's not a word low enough or bad enough to describe him as Prime Minister Ammi.

Yet in they come to defend him, no matter the hardship he will inflict on those at the lowest end of the scales.

It reveals a lot that.

reece(: · 20-10-2020, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t know what to say about someone who would do that to the people he’s serving...is this to make some kind of point with Andy Burnham...?...he’s prepared to ‘punish’ and put people into poverty...

If this is how he negotiates with the EU there’s no wonder we are heading for no deal.

I just don’t understand how punishing Manchester makes him look favourable from any side of the political spectrum.

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

If this is how he negotiates with the EU there’s no wonder we are heading for no deal.

I just don’t understand how punishing Manchester makes him look favourable from any side of the political spectrum.

...I’ve never liked him but I’m completely stunned that he can do this and then expect a country to get through what it needs to ...

Denver · 20-10-2020, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

The North will remember, I don’t know how he thinks any of these power grabs will show him in a favourable light following this crisis.

I mean he doesn't care, he is leaving that job soon as he has done Brexit

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:51 PM

...how is he ever going to keep the public onside through the restrictions if he’s knowingly putting them into poverty..

Kizzy · 20-10-2020, 04:50 PM

As said not sure why anyone expects any better, the big cities get effectively kettled with these tier 3 restrictions and the leafy burbs in Kent just tut at us for complaining.

Liam- · 20-10-2020, 04:55 PM

You sound surprised that he’s a twat?

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

You sound surprised that he’s a twat?

...no, just didn’t realise and underestimated the level of contempt and callousness...

Kate! · 20-10-2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...no, just didn’t realise and underestimated the level of contempt and callousness...

You and me both Ammi.

Brother Leon · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

There seems to be surprise at this. Enjoy 5 more years of being **** on unless you are one of the elite and rich of the country.

Nicky91 · 20-10-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

There seems to be surprise at this. Enjoy 5 more years of being **** on unless you are one of the elite and rich of the country.

what a mess

bots · 20-10-2020, 05:02 PM

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount for business support as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

Cherie · 20-10-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

While the ICU beds are full...they will have to start sending patients around the country soon

The Slim Reaper · 20-10-2020, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

Burnham didn't know anything about the £20m figure until it was revealed to him as he was about to start a press conference, so he wasn't playing games. if the serco test and trace is being offered nationally anyway, it seems inconceivable that it would need to be announced with a monetary figure attached, so one side is definitely playing games. Looks like Boris is about to start another climb down and needs something to pin it on.