[user104658]

It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.

Yes.


The British Empire was
worlds biggest power
it was a great time if you were British.

[Tom4784]

We must acknowledge our past fully, not try to sweep it under the rug because it's unpleasant. It's certainly not the place of white people to tell others whether or not they should simply move on.

We as a country profited from the Slave Trade and the empire left the world in a worse state than it was before it was a thing. Acting annoyed because you can't handle the dark parts of your own history is just the height of immaturity. The arrogance of this country is a constant source of irritation for me, we're think we're perfect, beyond blame, but we're not. Our history is vile and telling people to get over it instead of accepting that, for many people, we were the bad guys is just gross.

We can't look down on America and go 'This isn't America' because we helped the slave trade grow, it's as much a stain on our history as it is America's.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We must acknowledge our past fully, not try to sweep it under the rug because it's unpleasant. It's certainly not the place of white people to tell others whether or not they should simply move on.

We as a country profited from the Slave Trade and the empire left the world in a worse state than it was before it was a thing. Acting annoyed because you can't handle the dark parts of your own history is just the height of immaturity. The arrogance of this country is a constant source of irritation for me, we're think we're perfect, beyond blame, but we're not. Our history is vile and telling people to get over it instead of accepting that, for many people, we were the bad guys is just gross.

We can't look down on America and go 'This isn't America' because we helped the slave trade grow, it's as much a stain on our history as it is America's.

The British Empire was glorious.

[arista]

"We must acknowledge our past fully"



Yes Educational Big Sign
outside at the start of the Great Villages.


OK Dezzy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

Yes so the New big signs
can be filled with new information
on the History of each Village.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

I never even learned about our role in the slave trade at all. I only learned about it aftewards. We teach people the version of history that paints us in the best light and it's bull****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

I have made a sign that can be used

Spoiler:

[Parmy]

I suspect every country in the world will have a dark past if you delve deep enough..

Let it go peeps...get it go.

[Crimson Dynamo]

its just another

rich people (who employ you and take risks) bad

poor people good scenario

lol

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just another

rich people (who employ you and take risks) bad

poor people good scenario

lol

What does this even mean in this thread?

[rusticgal]

It’s History...some of it was ugly and inhumane.. but it’s done and dusted. Let’s learn from it and move on.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It’s History...some of it was ugly and inhumane.. but it’s done and dusted. Let’s learn from it and move on.

No, you don't understand. History lessons need to be devoted to telling kids how awful the country they were born in used to be before living memory, and town mayors need to make big speeches to apologise!!!

[Ammi]

...I agree that the past shouldn’t be erased and that it’s there for learning and understanding...with any historical figure, it’s important to know the person who I’d being tributes with things like statues etc... because that image/that likening means nothing ...anyways, specific to this article and thread...?....the report was obviously requested and written because of the substantial funding being given ...I don’t know what the local ethnic communities are but the thing with that would be to balance it and also give such funding to local ethnic youth projects and charities...because surely that would help define the progressions from unpleasants of the past...

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No, you don't understand. History lessons need to be devoted to telling kids how awful the country they were born in used to be before living memory

Unironically, this. History should teach us how bad things were in the past, so that we can learn from the mistakes of those who came before us, that is why history is important to begin with.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No, you don't understand. History lessons need to be devoted to telling kids how awful the country they were born in used to be before living memory, and town mayors need to make big speeches to apologise!!!

The entitlement of this post.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No, you don't understand. History lessons need to be devoted to telling kids how awful the country they were born in used to be before living memory, and town mayors need to make big speeches to apologise!!!

Thats why I said 'Learn from it'....its part of our History so it shouldnt be shoved under the Carpet.
However....I really dont see the need for Town Mayors to make big speeches apologising....

[Scarlett.]

As were the Pyramids, and 99% of the world. Though acknowledging it is a good thing.

[Livia]

Slaves have built, or the proceeds of the slave trade has funded, buildings and institutions all over the world. The pyramids, the Great Wall of China, the Taj Mahal. The Whitehouse was built by slaves, as was the Capitol Building, even the statue on top of the Capitol was made by a slave. Wall Street, named after an actual wall built by slaves, was the biggest slave market in the US. BMW, Audi, Volkswagen all used slave labour and are still trading healthily today along with numerous other German companies. Most people I know are quite knowledgeable about the slave trade. My husband, born and educated in the US, was taught about the slave trade. I think that's all we can do, know what happened and know that it's still happening, and try to bring about an end to it.

[Ammi]

...it would be nice to also invest in funding for local black youth projects etc as well to promote and further equality....that might already be being done, but it’s important that it’s known to be actively so ...as well as the funding for the preservations...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

The pyramids, the Great Wall of China, the Taj Mahal.

Egypt, China, and India need to apologise and self-flagellate immediately!!!

[DouglasS]

Time to burn down these villages I think, leave no survivors