[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

have you seen the BLM protests? Of course the results of slavery are still being felt today.

Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Their families still benefit from the wealth of their actions.

You can not stop that.


Its our British Empire History.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Their families still benefit from the wealth of their actions.

Lucky them. But at this point, no-one in the UK is worse of because a long forgotten ancestor was a slave.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.

Our history with slavery is just as brutal. we used to own all the slave transport contracts, for one.

[Toy Soldier]

It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Lucky them. But at this point, no-one in the UK is worse of because a long forgotten ancestor was a slave.

Hmmmm this is a complicated statement to make. Are people of ethnic minorities in the UK in absolute terms worse off today than they would be otherwise? Perhaps not, I'm sure there are arguments for it, bt it's questionable.

However... in relative terms? Yes, ethnic minorities (as well as working class and even middle class white folx) absolutely are comparatively worse off because of the slave trade... as there are still plenty of wealthy white people in the UK who gained vast portions of their wealth through the slave trade.

I wonder if you think "a few hundred years" is longer than it actually is? Like the era of slavery is "ancient" history? It's only a handful of generations.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.

Yes.


The British Empire was
worlds biggest power
it was a great time if you were British.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Our history with slavery is just as brutal. we used to own all the slave transport contracts, for one.

"We" weren't alive at the time, it was our ancestors.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.

Yes we used to run America

[Tom4784]

We must acknowledge our past fully, not try to sweep it under the rug because it's unpleasant. It's certainly not the place of white people to tell others whether or not they should simply move on.

We as a country profited from the Slave Trade and the empire left the world in a worse state than it was before it was a thing. Acting annoyed because you can't handle the dark parts of your own history is just the height of immaturity. The arrogance of this country is a constant source of irritation for me, we're think we're perfect, beyond blame, but we're not. Our history is vile and telling people to get over it instead of accepting that, for many people, we were the bad guys is just gross.

We can't look down on America and go 'This isn't America' because we helped the slave trade grow, it's as much a stain on our history as it is America's.

[arista]

"We must acknowledge our past fully"



Yes Educational Big Sign
outside at the start of the Great Villages.


OK Dezzy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

I have made a sign that can be used

Spoiler:

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

Yes so the New big signs
can be filled with new information
on the History of each Village.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We must acknowledge our past fully, not try to sweep it under the rug because it's unpleasant. It's certainly not the place of white people to tell others whether or not they should simply move on.

We as a country profited from the Slave Trade and the empire left the world in a worse state than it was before it was a thing. Acting annoyed because you can't handle the dark parts of your own history is just the height of immaturity. The arrogance of this country is a constant source of irritation for me, we're think we're perfect, beyond blame, but we're not. Our history is vile and telling people to get over it instead of accepting that, for many people, we were the bad guys is just gross.

We can't look down on America and go 'This isn't America' because we helped the slave trade grow, it's as much a stain on our history as it is America's.

The British Empire was glorious.

[Beso]

I suspect every country in the world will have a dark past if you delve deep enough..

Let it go peeps...get it go.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Our history with slavery is just as brutal. we used to own all the slave transport contracts, for one.

Actually owning slaves has always been illegal here, it says so in the Magna Carta. While some wealthy, upper-class business men may have traded to make their money, we has a nation of people have never took part in slavery.

In terms of anti-slavery, we probably rank the number 1 country in the World.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Actually owning slaves has always been illegal here, it says so in the Magna Carta. While some wealthy, upper-class business men may have traded to make their money, we has a nation of people have never took part in slavery. In terms of anti-slavery, we probably rank the number 1 country in the World.

Magna Carta hasn't been relevant for centuries, which is why the covid-denying, anti-mask movement was mercilessly mocked for it's invocation of the MC a few months ago.

Us and Portugal were the main movers of slaves, which means we went to Africa, either traded for, or rounded humans up, and then took them to America to sell and trade. If you think that's not taking part, then I don't know what to tell you. That's also the abridged version, which means I've omitted a lot of the details of what happened during those times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

its just another

rich people (who employ you and take risks) bad

poor people good scenario

lol

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just another

rich people (who employ you and take risks) bad

poor people good scenario

lol

What does this even mean in this thread?

[rusticgal]

It’s History...some of it was ugly and inhumane.. but it’s done and dusted. Let’s learn from it and move on.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It’s History...some of it was ugly and inhumane.. but it’s done and dusted. Let’s learn from it and move on.

No, you don't understand. History lessons need to be devoted to telling kids how awful the country they were born in used to be before living memory, and town mayors need to make big speeches to apologise!!!

[Ammi]

...I agree that the past shouldn’t be erased and that it’s there for learning and understanding...with any historical figure, it’s important to know the person who I’d being tributes with things like statues etc... because that image/that likening means nothing ...anyways, specific to this article and thread...?....the report was obviously requested and written because of the substantial funding being given ...I don’t know what the local ethnic communities are but the thing with that would be to balance it and also give such funding to local ethnic youth projects and charities...because surely that would help define the progressions from unpleasants of the past...