[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I dont know where you are getting your information from ,I am a teachers assistant and I got my jab last Friday,so they ARE getting them

All the teachers at my son's school have had theirs too

Did you have any side effects Kaz?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

All the teachers at my son's school have had theirs too

Did you have any side effects Kaz?

Yes Annie,i was very cold, headachey,just generally under the weather, but I was fine on Sunday,I had the Oxford one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

All the teachers at my son's school have had theirs too

Did you have any side effects Kaz?

Annie, have all the other school staff had it too.

Some of my family who are concerned at their children returning to school, have told me, they know other staff at their schools haven't had the vaccines.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I dont know where you are getting your information from ,I am a teachers assistant and I got my jab last Friday,so they ARE getting them

He’s getting his infomation from gossip sites and Facebook it seems

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

He’s getting his infomation from gossip sites and Facebook it seems

I sincerely doubt it. Joey is a very level headed person and deals in facts.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

He’s getting his infomation from gossip sites and Facebook it seems

Well as you know Douglas I don't take any notice gossip rags ,twitter or tbh some of the media ,actions and word of mouth does it for me. All I know is I have had the jab and I work in a school.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I dont know where you are getting your information from ,I am a teachers assistant and I got my jab last Friday,so they ARE getting them

yep all the staff at the school I used to work with have got them, some going back a few weeks but most in half term

and that is everyone, including management and admin staff

if fact they rolled out a limited supply in late January and some of the management helped themselves before the staff who are actually in classrooms with the children, and these children are special needs so do not know how to socially distance

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I dont know where you are getting your information from ,I am a teachers assistant and I got my jab last Friday,so they ARE getting them

Unless you’re clinically vulnerable you aren’t able to receive a jab Kaz.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Unless you’re clinically vulnerable you aren’t able to receive a jab Kaz.

Don't be so silly, that is fake news, how has Smithy got it then?

The TAs, teachers and management have all received it in our local special needs school

Are you saying they are all clinically vulnerable

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Unless you’re clinically vulnerable you aren’t able to receive a jab Kaz.

Im not vunerable and Ive had it, so have others at our school.

[Jordan.]

We want the barbers open ASAP

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

We want the barbers open ASAP

.....we should have a how long is your hair, thread...mine is seriously scary now but I somehow quite like it...

[Beso]

I look like a freshly lighten match.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....we should have a how long is your hair, thread...mine is seriously scary now but I somehow quite like it...

Rapunzel Rapunzel let down your hair.

Xxxx

[Smithy]

I think it’s stupid to say in March we’re doing this, in April this and in May this, so much can happen in that space of time, and people only hear WERE OPENING THIS IN MAY and ignore the fine print of - assuming cases remain low - then if it doesn’t happen they kick off

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I think it’s stupid to say in March we’re doing this, in April this and in May this, so much can happen in that space of time, and people only hear WERE OPENING THIS IN MAY and ignore the fine print of - assuming cases remain low - then if it doesn’t happen they kick off

Yeah I agree. And didnt Boris actually say at one of the briefings they need to go more with data rather than dates? I'm sure I remember him saying that a few weeks back because Nicola sturgeon had said similar round about the same time

[Beso]

Boris will ruin 2021 tomorrow..

Thousands upon thousands of men will be willing him to open the pubs, but all hes gonna do is allow the mother in law to come round and visit.

[joeysteele]

I hope I'm wrong.
I'm not happy anyway to think schools will be open from March 8th.

When it's concretely safe to start relaxing then yes.

However, it seems like it's being prepared of better news short term for those advocating opening up sooner.
Not bothered about more possible unnecessary deaths.

The news is full today of promising early data on lower transmission after vaccination, the important word there ,EARLY.
Early is not a clear or fuller picture.

Yet that may be used to say, things can open up a little more quickly than planned.

We've had Hancock, saying now infections falling faster than in the first lockdown.
That's rich considering he didn't seem to have a clue what was going on during the first lockdown anyway.

So the rhetoric is starting now to present a seemingly safer position.

On, ' early' data.
That ought not to be enough at all.

Obviously I'll wait to see what he says.
I'll not prejudge on what I expect to hear now.
If he opens schools on March 8th, I'll think it wrong, especially if he opens them all.
However he's not alone there, Starmer is likely to support that too.
Which I too consider bad judgement on Starmer's part too.

If he opens up more, before April at least, then in my view he has likely learned next to nothing in near a year now sadly.
I believe he will going on a dangerous path again.
With probably more unnecessary losses of loved ones lives and more left with likely long covid in their lives too.

[Cherie]

Schools are opening albeit partially in Scotland and Wales tomorrow, we have to loosen at some point, infections will rise but hopefully the vaccines will keep admissions and deaths controlled

[joeysteele]

We only went into lockdown on 6th January.

I don't agree either with Wales and Scotland opening schools either.

Of course we have to open up, for me only when it's really safe to.

I don't want to lose any more people or see any loved ones ending up with long covid either.
(Oh yes I hear the groans).
Something they're still gathering the data on as to.
People have suffered months and some may for life with long covid.

Are people happy to see that happen just to open things up more quickly?

The vaccines neither stop those vaccinated getting the virus nor yet not transmitting it to others.

There's still too many ifs, maybes and incomplete data it seems in my view.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

We only went into lockdown on 6th January.

I don't agree either with Wales and Scotland opening schools either.

Of course we have to open up, for me only when it's really safe to.

I don't want to lose any more people or see any loved ones ending up with long covid either.
(Oh yes I hear the groans).
Something they're still gathering the data on as to.
People have suffered months and some may for life with long covid.

Are people happy to see that happen just to open things up more quickly?

The vaccines neither stop those vaccinated getting the virus nor yet not transmitting it to others.

There's still too many ifs, maybes and incomplete data it seems in my view.

It’s not that we want people to die.. it’s that we can’t close off life forever. It’s just like saying let’s ban driving because people die in car crashes.. do you want those people to die because of driving? Or do you also agree we should ban all driving...

There comes a point where we have to accept a level of risk in life, and sadly this point is nearing. People are always going to die and we cannot stop that, that is true in all walks of life and will be with coronavirus also. All we can do it vaccinate all vulnerable and all elderly and middle aged and that should help slow down the deaths drastically, but unfortunately not everyone can be saved and also the cost of lockdown financially and mentally will soon begin to have a large impact on the vast majority of the public

[GoldHeart]

I just hope we don't go backwards

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

It’s not that we want people to die.. it’s that we can’t close off life forever. It’s just like saying let’s ban driving because people die in car crashes.. do you want those people to die because of driving? Or do you also agree we should ban all driving...

There comes a point where we have to accept a level of risk in life, and sadly this point is nearing. People are always going to die and we cannot stop that, that is true in all walks of life and will be with coronavirus also. All we can do it vaccinate all vulnerable and all elderly and middle aged and that should help slow down the deaths drastically, but unfortunately not everyone can be saved and also the cost of lockdown financially and mentally will soon begin to have a large impact on the vast majority of the public

You can't equate driving deaths with this virus.
This virus is something no one ever expected to come across in this way in their lives.

The loss of loved ones to this is devastating.
Even moreso when their lives shouldn't have been lost.

Driving a vehicle in an accident caused by the driver or another driver, are tragedies, yes avoidable at times, but down to the individuals.

Younger people do get covid too, we're only learning the numbers and the horror of now long covid too even on them.
All from this virus.

The more society is opened up, the more likely infections will rise again.
Very few have even had their second vaccinations yet.

There's still a way to go even with the vaccines, which DON'T stop transmission, from the elderly to the younger and vice versa.
With all that, I will not be convinced any further risk of unnecessary deaths should be put in place.

You'll never agree just as I'll never agree with you that while deaths are sad they may happen, the ones that are and could and should be avoidable that is..
Not if there's ways to prevent unnecessary deaths, no way

HOWEVER I want no one else, not ONE person or family, friends and neighbours, as I and my family have, ( oh yes that just gets groans and derision, I'm used to it now), to lose to this accursed virus any loved one of theirs unnecessarily.
Which shouldn't even be likely, after a year of supposed dealing with and learning about it.

So I'd say no, to any relaxation for that bit extra time to bring things right down even further to much lower levels on ALL counts.

[Glenn.]

Imagine comparing dying of COVID to a car accident

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Imagine comparing dying of COVID to a car accident

It’s an analogy about having to take some risk as a society to improve quality of life for the mass majority... Looks like it flew over your head