[bots]

anything involving profit and animals has a good chance of being dodgy. We have animal welfare regulations of course, but if an opportunity exists, people will take advantage

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

None of them give a **** about the horses, it's all PR bluster.

Anyone who wants to jump horses over impossible fences for money have no regard for the animal at all.

And this scumbag... well... sooner or later everyone shows who they really are.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, this might be hugely controversial but I do think anyone who thinks horseracing is fine..doesnt give too much of a **** about animals. Yeah I know...'most are nice to them' 'only the bad ones abuse' blah blah. But...nah.

Yeah like I said... The whole industry (both horses and dog racing) treats the animals as commodities... They're treated with utmost care while they're valuable and then discarded like a broken piece of machinery when they're not. In the long thing that Cherie quoted, they have someone saying that the industry is based on love and respect of the animals... Well no... It just isn't. The industry requires the illusion of love and respect for the animals in order to continue. That's why they're horrified at this guy... He's eroded that illusion and it threatens their industry.

I'm not against the concept of "working animals" as a whole - police/search dogs, working farm horses, etc. but any animal that's bred and kept primarily to be put to work for human entertainment is ethically questionable.

I think what made the grand national thing worse too, was that I 'found out' on a shift at work, when the men in the bar were putting on their bets and that, but also putting a crapton of money onto the middle of the table. So I asked and wished I did not..that was a side bet, apparently, betting on how many horses died this year WAs then subjected to like..a bunch of men trying to explain why no, it wasnt horrible, its the circle of life and I just know nothing and blah blah )

You'd be amazed (or horrified) at how many people I had every single year asking for the odds on exactly this, and then being incredulous ("that's ridiculous, I thought you could bet on anything!") when told that major bookies don't offer odds on horses dying, for obvious reasons. But yeah, plenty of person-to-person side wagers going on between regular customers on GN morning.

Yet more reasons to be thankful that I got far away from the gambling industry. Yuck.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah like I said... The whole industry (both horses and dog racing) treats the animals as commodities... They're treated with utmost care while they're valuable and then discarded like a broken piece of machinery when they're not. In the long thing that Cherie quoted, they have someone saying that the industry is based on love and respect of the animals... Well no... It just isn't. The industry requires the illusion of love and respect for the animals in order to continue. That's why they're horrified at this guy... He's eroded that illusion and it threatens their industry.

I'm not against the concept of "working animals" as a whole - police/search dogs, working farm horses, etc. but any animal that's bred and kept primarily to be put to work for human entertainment is ethically questionable.



You'd be amazed (or horrified) at how many people I had every single year asking for the odds on exactly this, and then being incredulous ("that's ridiculous, I thought you could bet on anything!") when told that major bookies don't offer odds on horses dying, for obvious reasons. But yeah, plenty of person-to-person side wagers going on between regular customers on GN morning.

Yet more reasons to be thankful that I got far away from the gambling industry. Yuck.

You'd want to be a ****ing moron to believe that's true tbf

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You'd want to be a ****ing moron to believe that's true tbf

Like I said earlier.. Sky News interviewed a racing pundit yesterday and he said that we shouldn’t assume that he didn’t love or care for the animals under his care !!

Presumably the pundit is known to the guy or knows how much clout he carries in racing ..


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[Janet Jackson]

It is tasteless but I don’t think it’s as bad as people are making out I mean the horse is dead