[arista]

Debated on BBC2HD
Politics Live.


"They need to find another way of doing it"



Brendon Clark-Smith MP

"Black Lives Matter is a political movement and also
promotes some quite eccentric and extreme policies
such as abolishing the nuclear family
and defunding the police...fans....are
just sick and tired of being preached
and spoken down to. They are there to
watch a football match, not to be
lectured on morality."

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Debated on BBC2HD
Politics Live.


"They need to find another way of doing it"



Brendon Clark-Smith MP

"Black Lives Matter is a political movement and also
promotes some quite eccentric and extreme policies
such as abolishing the nuclear family
and defunding the police...fans....are
just sick and tired of being preached
and spoken down to. They are there to
watch a football match, not to be
lectured on morality."

Sums it up well enough.

[arista]

[Ammi]

…when the Daily Star thinks you’re a numpty and the biggest berk in Britain …oh Lozza….

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

Here's look at the state of deluded Lozza in that pic , he probably thinks he looks nice .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Here's look at the state of deluded Lozza in that pic , he probably thinks he looks nice .

why he never took the pic and hasnt seen it?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Here's look at the state of deluded Lozza in that pic , he probably thinks he looks nice .

He doesn't look as daft as that english numpty dying his hair to look like gazza.

But my question is.

Why isnt the discussion of black players not taking the knee not being discussed?

Surely that is far more interesting than some half pissed white men booing uf they ain't got a mouthful of overpriced sausage meat half way down their gullets.

Why do they not take a knee?

If its cause they refuse to knee down whilst sweaty white men boo them I see their point..

I just dont know if that's their point....someone educate me please.

[Beso]

Tbh they should be taking a knee on twitter and the like, not on a football pitch.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Tbh they should be taking a knee on twitter and the like, not on a football pitch.

Yes that would be far better

[Beso]

One of them will strain a muscle one day, I hope it's just before the whistle on june 18th

[arista]

"people don’t agree…when it really does
seem to be a booing few…let them boo while the knee
continues to be taken in support …politics isn’t being
supported, equality is…"





Those Fans pay for that
match they are watching Ammi
they Hate Politics being Dragged into the match.


I am sure Marcus understands that.
And just wants to stay as a Goal Winning Player

[arista]

Last Question on Question Time.

BLM Political is from USA
thats the problem,
Yanis from Greece Loves it.


Of Course He would................

A UK Football Pitch
is the wrong place.
Southgate is a Fool on "this"





Its Sport
Not Woke Politics

[Shaun]

"the connection to BLM is very real" except for... the literal proof and etymology (it originating with Colin Kaepernick) that it isn't, and the absence of any England footballers or staff endorsing BLM.

Christ it must be exhausting reading so much into an anti-racism campaign.

[AnnieK]

It's not forcing it down anyone's throat though. They aren't asking the fans to kneel, its the player's and their choice. Some PL players have stopped doing it and that's their choice. It's a 1 minute thing, don't like it, don't watch, get a brew etc. We have to watch them either looking stoney faced or pretending to know the National Anthem before the match, its just something they now do.

The likes of Rashford and Stirling get racist abuse during and after some games from their own fans, let alone when they play for England against some of the Eastern European teams.

[bots]

it is forcing it down peoples throats .... that's why they are doing it

Anyway, i will always support removing racism, but i will never support anything associated with BLM. So, for me it is now counter productive and that's not what you want from a campaign

i'm sure the extreme left wing on this forum are perfectly fine with it, as it aligns with their politics, but the vast majority of the country are not extreme left wing as evidenced by recent elections, so, its not going to get the support it would have if it were free of politics

[Ammi]

…it is free of politics, that’s the point…there is no politics in an anti discrimination gesture…the politics are being placed on it in a way of preventing….


…the resistance to it, to me is saying…we already have as much ‘equality’ as we’re comfortable with, we don’t need more….the fact that there is resistance and opposition as there is…?…to me show how much it’s needed to continue and I’m glad that that’s what the mindset atm within the football body is…

[Ammi]

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

This for me too

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

So what.


This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match



It will be Boooo'd every time.

[Liam-]

If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

No you are Forcing USA BLM
on a UK Match.

[Liam-]

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

+ i don't think UEFA wouldn't mind this at all, given their own #SayNoToRacism motto

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

Honestly the majority of fans aren't racist at all, and couldn't care less if the players take a knee (we included). We just wanna support our team and hope they do well.

[arista]

"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"


BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match