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Old 24-07-2021, 11:36 AM #1
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TS privy to the innermost workings of the mind of the "vast majority" of people who support Boris.
I shall rephrase just for you, Livia:

The vast majority of the support I see being expressed for Boris is "lol he's sooo funny".

If people have other/better reasons for supporting him then they're not sharing them much... and who am I to assume that the reasons they're expressing aren't the real reasons? After all, I'm not a mind reader...

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I shall rephrase just for you, Livia:

The vast majority of the support I see being expressed for Boris is "lol he's sooo funny".

If people have other/better reasons for supporting him then they're not sharing them much... and who am I to assume that the reasons they're expressing aren't the real reasons? After all, I'm not a mind reader...
No, you should be clearer in the first place instead of pretending you know what other people are thinking and doing.

Tories aren't loud. They do their talking at the ballot box, generally.

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No, you should be clearer in the first place instead of pretending you know what other people are thinking and doing.

Tories aren't loud. They do their talking at the ballot box, generally.

But that applies to literally everyone, there’s a vocal minority and most keep their cards close to their chest. I’d still say the same… I can only base my perception of why people like Boris on the reasons that people actually express for liking Boris - which is that they find him affable/funny. I can’t simply assume that the people who aren’t vocalising their reasons for liking him secretly have other reasons.

Also… the question is about Boris not the Tories and while I’m sure there’s significant overlap it’s not the same question: in the UK people vote for the party, not the leader (supposedly) and I would think that there are probably plenty of people who generally like Boris but don’t vote Tory… and likewise plenty of Tory voters who aren’t particularly keen on Boris.
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He has plenty of support but the vast majority of that support is rooted in those people thinking “he’s sooo funny”.

And that should say it all really.

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Made a lot of mistakes but has had to navigate two of the biggest peacetime challenges in modern history in Brexit and Covid. Think he's done pretty well with the former, worse with the latter but if the current unlocking is successful that will help his case

Too early to say what his legacy will be
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Made a lot of mistakes but has had to navigate two of the biggest peacetime challenges in modern history in Brexit and Covid. Think he's done pretty well with the former, worse with the latter but if the current unlocking is successful that will help his case

Too early to say what his legacy will be

I pretty much agree with that...

I seriously believe no one would have wanted to lead the country through Covid...

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In a literal sense, ****ing abysmally.

In the context of the ageing population, Daily Mails success, and the ratio of idiots… not too bad.
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He can only be judged on covid, and his plan of herd immunity will be judged after this summer.


I trust our vaccines, and I trust our strength to overcome this virus by using vaccine and common sense..

If you have neither, then you refused to listen to boris.
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He somehow made Theresa May look half decent
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And my god that was a challenge as she was crap aswell.
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She's probably the one tory I have some sympathy for, she was set up from the beginning, her own party sabotaged her every step of the way in order to make way for Boris to ride in on a white horse. She was a seat warmer and she got treated horribly.

She wasn't a great PM, and she's a tory so that's another mark against her, but I do think she was set up to fail and bear a lot of undue hate so that Boris would look better.
To be fair though - they ALL KNEW in advance that whoever took up the role when Cameron hmm hmmmm'd his way out the back door was going to be temporary, was going to absorb a lot of flak, and was essentially just acting as a "cushion" for whoever came next. There's a reason that Boris and all of the other senior Tories didn't step up at the time. May likely knew exactly what she was getting into but saw it as her only opportunity to take the top job... even if it was only ever going to be temporary.

To be fair I think she did the best she could with what she had - which unfortunately was not a lot, with not a lot.
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She's probably the one tory I have some sympathy for, she was set up from the beginning, her own party sabotaged her every step of the way in order to make way for Boris to ride in on a white horse. She was a seat warmer and she got treated horribly.

She wasn't a great PM, and she's a tory so that's another mark against her, but I do think she was set up to fail and bear a lot of undue hate so that Boris would look better.
Yeah I understand she was the 'fall guy' so to speak,hence me saying Boris almost made her look competent. As for feeling sorry for her I can't say I have the same feeling as such.

The windrush scandal was one of her worst moments. The sheer ignorance and mistreatment was wrong on so many levels.
Her attitude in alot of things was really nonchalant and lacked alot of genuine compassion , Grenfell is another prime example of that.
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No

I will Not have that at all/



She was Anal
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Wasted 2 years on my Brexit



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He actually has indeed.
At least she has never been found by the 2 highest courts in the land to have acted unlawfully while holding power.
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He actually has indeed.
At least she has never been found by the 2 highest courts in the land to have acted unlawfully while holding power.
It's like the Bush & Trump comparisons.

Bush & May were still useless ,but Trump & Boris make them almost look competent.

This is what it's come to with the government, Boris is one of the WORST we've ever had.
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No marsh..

I was already in the thread in post 16, so kept an interest in it..

I read all posts after my post 16, and found livia to be closest to what I was thinking after reading the thread, dezzy disagreed, he was the first to disagree..so I was then first to disagree with his opinion of the opinion I thought was correct.

I didnt quote him, for the sake of everyone's eyes..


But you have, and this is all you have..


You have simply jumped in to derail a conversation hoping to drag people down with you.


I do believe that within 3 posts of you coming back from a paultry one days ban, I believe you have mentioned someones alcohol intake as though it's a given joke
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No marsh..

I was already in the thread in post 16, so kept an interest in it..

I read all posts after my post 16, and found livia to be closest to what I was thinking after reading the thread, dezzy disagreed, he was the first to disagree..so I was then first to disagree with his opinion of the opinion I thought was correct.

I didnt quote him, for the sake of everyone's eyes..


But you have, and this is all you have..


You have simply jumped in to derail a conversation hoping to drag people down with you.


I do believe that within 3 posts of you coming back from a paultry one days ban, I believe you have mentioned someones alcohol intake as though it's a given joke
When in doubt, take it off topic.
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When in doubt, take it off topic.
I will leave you to your attention seeking *****nish.
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