[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Any evidence the person actually had anything to do with trans? Aside from a flippant joke made by someone who makes flippant jokes about trans people?

I don't think the reasons are known but there's plenty of evidence that it was pre-planned (he took stuff with him) and that would suggest having a specific reason to attack Chappelle, specifically, and right now on balance of probabilities that's likely to be because of his Netflix special (there had already been multiple threats made). There's not really anything else current enough causing "Chappelle hate" for it to be likely to be anything else. It would be like Amber Heard being attacked and asking "any evidence this had anything to do with the Johnny Depp litigation?". Evidence perhaps not, likelihood is valid enough to pose the suggestion.

Arista's thread title is a bit misleading but what else is new really... more unusual if it wasn't.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Any evidence the person actually had anything to do with trans? Aside from a flippant joke made by someone who makes flippant jokes about trans people?

There in No Evidence
until he goes public.

But Considering this Great Comedian
attacking trans
it is a fair assumption by me
that something that triggered that Runner- Attacker

[arista]

Getting to stage
should be hard,
He got up on the stage by running so fast

Enough to knock the Great Comedian down


Security Men and Women
should stand at those entry points

[Niamh.]

You probably should edit your title Arista actually as that is just supposition at the moment

[Liam-]

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced

Now changed to Crazy Man

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced

Suggesting that any discussion of Dave Chappelle isn't currently going to involve trans issues is just unrealistic. It would involve being deliberately avoidant of known, recent, relevant (threats of violence made) events... I don't know why you'd be so keen to live in a crafted/sanitised reality for the sake of comfort. You can't play dumb and say "Chappelle and trans rights? Absolutely no link, I have no idea what you mean " and expect that to be taken seriously. If JK Rowling was attacked during a book reading what would your immediate suspicion be? Honestly? There's a slim chance it might be unrelated but it's just not pragmatically likely in the slightest.

To be clear though it's not about "blaming trans people" - I'd no more blame trans people for an attack like this than I'd blame Muslims for a terrorist incident. So long as it isn't being "cheered on" or encouraged it's no one's responsibility but the individual who did it (who I doubt is trans, and if they do indeed claim to be "an ally", they're a terrible one).

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Suggesting that any discussion of Dave Chappelle isn't currently going to involve trans issues is just unrealistic. It would involve being deliberately avoidant of known, recent, relevant (threats of violence made) events... I don't know why you'd be so keen to live in a crafted/sanitised reality for the sake of comfort. You can't play dumb and say "Chappelle and trans rights? Absolutely no link, I have no idea what you mean " and expect that to be taken seriously. If JK Rowling was attacked during a book reading what would your immediate suspicion be? Honestly? There's a slim chance it might be unrelated but it's just not pragmatically likely in the slightest.

To be clear though it's not about "blaming trans people" - I'd no more blame trans people for an attack like this than I'd blame Muslims for a terrorist incident. So long as it isn't being "cheered on" or encouraged it's no one's responsibility but the individual who did it (who I doubt is trans, and if they do indeed claim to be "an ally", they're a terrible one).

And how likely is it that it isn't being cheered on or encouraged given the reactions to Rowling and others?

Has there been any discouragement of this kind of behaviour? I may have missed it, if you know of any I'd be happy to read it.

[arista]

[Video later showed the attacker,
with what appeared to be a dislocated arm,
being loaded onto an ambulance.]

New Update: Los Angeles Police Department
told NBC that the male suspect had
been armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.


https://news.sky.com/story/dave-chap...-bowl-12605098

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

Chances are it was an MRA, let's be real, but it doesn't mean it definitely was - maybe it was a Smollett-believer

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Chances are it was an MRA, let's be real, but it doesn't mean it definitely was - maybe it was a Smollett-believer

[Armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.]


No
this was a dangerous Crazy Man

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

[Armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.]


No
this was a dangerous Crazy Man

Hopefully all the USA celebs are tweeting out condemnation?

[Alf]

[Alf]

[Alf]

White person attacks Black comedian and not even a whisper from Black Lives Matter.

If Dave was a residivist, drug dealing criminal then statues would have been toppled.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not like you. You usually do better than that. You're slacking in your old age.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

That's not like you. You usually do better than that. You're slacking in your old age.

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.

They bring it on themselves. I didn't start it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.

Do you not think Alf has a point that there hasn't been much chatter on the race front with this? Not that I'm saying there WAS a racial component because I don't personally think there was... But nonetheless, usually there'd be at least some background noise with those suggestions regardless.

One might suggest that Mr Chappelle has dissented one too many times from the accepted mindset of the Group That Doesn't Exist, and has thus lost that usually very vocal support.

[Liam-]

He’ll definitely be antifa before long

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He’ll definitely be antifa before long

While you're only joking, it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be the case.

[Mystic Mock]

It's definitely disturbing that someone hates a Comedian so much that they'd go out of their way to plan all of this.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's definitely disturbing that someone hates a Comedian so much that they'd go out of their way to plan all of this.

It's worrying & disturbing for sure . I hope security gets thoroughly checked and strengthened for future events.