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bots · 24-06-2022, 04:30 PM

when you hear phrases like "praise the lord" and "god has decided" in reference to this ruling, it really calls into question if there is any real difference between the USA and the middle east

Liam- · 24-06-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

when you hear phrases like "praise the lord" and "god has decided" in reference to this ruling, it really calls into question if there is any real difference between the USA and the middle east

There is literally no difference, this is what happens when religion is allowed to be the controlling factor over a country, the worst parts get highlighted and it ****s people over beyond belief, as long as the minority are okay with it, there should always be a clear and concise separation between church and state

user104658 · 24-06-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

when you hear phrases like "praise the lord" and "god has decided" in reference to this ruling, it really calls into question if there is any real difference between the USA and the middle east

The United States was effectively founded on religious fundamentalism; groups of separatist cults escaping the established orthodoxy of Europe to "start anew" (and grow exponentially) in The New World. And it's heavily protected by their religion-like dogmatic worship of "The Constitution" which means that these populations will always be disproportionately represented in power (small god-fearing states have a ridiculously disproportionate voting power).

I doubt it's fixable, it's baked right into the very ingredients of the country, and generation upon generation are raised to ultimately accept "what's constitutional". Roe vs Wade was ALWAYS flawed because it was based on a successful legal argument that the right to abortion was constitutional - a precedent that's always been on a knife-edge - meaning that the whole thing collapses if that one consensus collapses.

MTVN · 24-06-2022, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The United States was effectively founded on religious fundamentalism; groups of separatist cults escaping the established orthodoxy of Europe to "start anew" (and grow exponentially) in The New World. And it's heavily protected by their religion-like dogmatic worship of "The Constitution" which means that these populations will always be disproportionately represented in power (small god-fearing states have a ridiculously disproportionate voting power).

I doubt it's fixable, it's baked right into the very ingredients of the country, and generation upon generation are raised to ultimately accept "what's constitutional". Roe vs Wade was ALWAYS flawed because it was based on a successful legal argument that the right to abortion was constitutional - a precedent that's always been on a knife-edge - meaning that the whole thing collapses if that one consensus collapses.

That's how this country was governed for a while until it went to **** and they restored a monarch who preferred booze and women, one to thank the monarchy for

user104658 · 24-06-2022, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

That's how this country was governed for a while until it went to **** and they restored a monarch who preferred booze and women, one to thank the monarchy for

True, but they didn’t have the damn Internet making things 10x worse

Sticks · 24-06-2022, 05:52 PM

Excuse me the topic for this thread, if you had forgotten is "USA : President Joe Biden 3rd Nov 2020 " not the ruling of a court in a foreign land.

I call on the moderators or admins to stream off the posts about this ruling into a separate thread. When I was an active moderator on another forum, that is what we would do if a discussion went off topic.

I would have reported the posts, but the reasons we are allowed to report a post for is limited on this site.

MTVN · 24-06-2022, 06:02 PM

You raise a fair point Sticks, I have heeded your call

MTVN · 24-06-2022, 06:02 PM

The Biden thread can now return to just being used for gifs of him falling off his bike

arista · 24-06-2022, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

The Biden thread can now return to just being used for gifs of him falling off his bike

OK Fair Enough

arista · 24-06-2022, 06:30 PM

Ch4HDnews gave a good report
even showing the 1973 broadcast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

Some fear backstreet abortions
could cause mother deaths, by error

Many have reported.

The Slim Reaper · 24-06-2022, 06:36 PM

Embarrassing.

Oliver_W · 24-06-2022, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Excuse me the topic for this thread, if you had forgotten is "USA : President Joe Biden 3rd Nov 2020 " not the ruling of a court in a foreign land.

I call on the moderators or admins to stream off the posts about this ruling into a separate thread. When I was an active moderator on another forum, that is what we would do if a discussion went off topic.

I would have reported the posts, but the reasons we are allowed to report a post for is limited on this site.

Making it a new thread was a good move, some things shouldn't be lost in the noise of a megathread.

Swan · 24-06-2022, 07:07 PM

The 3 G's in the USA as my friend say's. Guns. God. Government. In that order.

Appalling ruling, truly appalling. The knock on affect of this in the years to come shall be catastrophic, make no mistake about it.

user104658 · 24-06-2022, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

All the anti-trans allies of women sure lost interest in protecting womens rights, the minute their actual rights have been infringed. I wish I could have seen this coming...

I personally wouldn't say there's any particular link between what some would brand "TERF feminism" and being in support of anti-abortion laws, to be fair... quite the opposite really; most people I've seen in TERFy circles are rightly horrified by this news. It's bad news for everyone and should be seen as such. Of course there will always be those who will jump on a political bandwagon as a means to their own ends.

user104658 · 24-06-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Some fear backstreet abortions
could cause mother deaths, by error

This isn't a "some fear", it's a straight up certainty that this will happen. Deaths, but also permanent health consequences, and those will fly right under the radar with many never even being reported.