[Glenn.]

People need to stop seeing all transpeople as predators ..

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

People need to stop seeing all transpeople as predators ..

That's not what people are saying, but if you commit something as serious as rape / assault .....why should I still respect that person's pronouns??. Especially when it's clear alot of these predators are finding convenient loopholes to get to their victims, how many of them are genuinely trans !?.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

By all means provide links to all these attacks

There have been numerous examples posted on here over the last few months and -- importantly -- that's WITHOUT the wide-scale acceptance of easy self-ID that's being actively pushed for in the name of trans rights. It's a clear indication of a safeguarding problem that could be a much larger problem IF these pieces of legislation are allowed to change, and yet whenever people complain or point that out they're branded transphobic and told to keep quiet. It's nothing short of gaslighting.

Originally Posted by Glenn.

People need to stop seeing all transpeople as predators ..

I suppose we should just do away with things like enhanced disclosure documents for people working with vulnerable people and children, then? "Because people need to stop seeing all adults as predators".

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I suppose we should just do away with things like enhanced disclosure documents for people working with vulnerable people and children, then? "Because people need to stop seeing all adults as predators".

That has been done away with already so certain boxes can be ticked in the workforce.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I suppose we should just do away with things like enhanced disclosure documents for people working with vulnerable people and children, then? "Because people need to stop seeing all adults as predators".

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[Cherie]

Looks like these things have to happen, its just tough luck if it happens to you as long as the numbers are low

If men pretending to be women were denied access to female only spaces this wouldn't be happening at all and wouldn't that be better all round

[GoldHeart]

Predators are taking advantage of the system,they know all they have to do is put on a wig and say they're a woman and that's it.

I'm sure there was one having a tantrum about not being able to get into a women's only gym, why not just go to a gym in general??. Why does it have to be a 'women's only ' gym .

[Beso]

[Glenn.]

I’m talking about people using very rare occurrences to push an agenda.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I’m talking about people using very rare occurrences to push an agenda.

But in the process you choose to ignore the fact that just because something is "rare" doesn't mean that it should be swept aside when considering safeguarding concerns. Whether you mean it to or not, it simply comes across as not really giving a **** about women's safety in the name of "inclusivity".

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

But in the process you choose to ignore the fact that just because something is "rare" doesn't mean that it should be swept aside when considering safeguarding concerns. Whether you mean it to or not, it simply comes across as not really giving a **** about women's safety in the name of "inclusivity".

By all means show me where I said it should be swept aside

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

By all means show me where I said it should be swept aside

I didn't say you said it should be swept aside - I said you do sweep it aside. You minimise it and brand it not important, by constantly responding with little more than "it's rare". But that defeats the entire premise of the thing you're arguing for; trans people wanting the use of women's shelters, toilets and changing areas is also relatively rare.

[Vanessa]

I don't believe that all trans people are predators.
There are bad people everywhere.
In this case it was a women's refuge, it should be women only.
Otherwise it's not safe.

[user104658]

Me crashing my car is "rare". In fact... I've driven it on thousands of journies. I drive it every day. I've NEVER crashed it and I've never had anyone crash into me ... that's how rare it is for me to crash my car.

Shall I stop wearing my seatbelt? I have a bad shoulder and sometimes the pressure from the seatbelt makes it hurt. Seems like I should just do away with the seatbelt. Evidence suggests it's unnecessary?

[Cherie]

Its like saying murder is rare in some sleepy village somewhere, in fact its been the first murder in 100s of years so lets just ignore it as its not likely to happen again Men in womens prisons in Scotland is not rare...we just didn't hear about it until Isla whats his name,

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its like saying murder is rare in some sleepy village somewhere, in fact its been the first murder in 100s of years so lets just ignore it as its not likely to happen again Men in womens prisons in Scotland is not rare...we just didn't hear about it until Isla whats his name,

Isla Man?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Isla Man?

[Crimson Dynamo]

JK Rowling opened a Woman only rape crisis center late last year in Edinburgh.

the existing Rape crisis center was being run by a biological male trans person called Mridul Wadhwa....



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[Alf]

Should Tyson Fury be allowed to identify as a featherweight?