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RIP
Nothing Compares 2 U is simply an iconic masterpiece both Sinead's and the original version by Prince are btw yes sadly i agree too this was a suicide, she struggled with mental health problems for a very long time gone way too soon ![]()
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![]() https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...th-age-56.html ![]() [O'Connor and Peter Gabriel during the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards in Los Angeles, California] |
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I think she and Peter were an item way back in the day
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According to Anthony Kiedis Sinead and him were an item too and he wrote I Could have Lied about her, she always denied it though, odd. RIP, a talented but troubled woman
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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Sinead O'Connor died of natural causes, coroner confirms…
Sinead O'Connor, who was found unresponsive at her home in southeast London last year, died of natural causes, a coroner has said. The Irish singer died in July, aged 56. No medical cause for her death was given at the time, with London Inner South Coroner's Court saying a post-mortem would be conducted and the results could take several weeks. Now, the coroner's court has confirmed O'Connor died of natural causes and that it is no longer investigating her death. "This is to confirm that Ms O'Connor died of natural causes," the coroner's court said in a statement. "The coroner has therefore ceased their involvement in her death." According to the Ministry of Justice, death by natural causes is when an illness or condition is not linked to external forces and there are no "unusual circumstances". https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sinead-oco...134700433.html |
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Bit weird no one dies of natural causes ...its either old age, terminal illness, heart issues , cancer.. respiratory... she had to have died of something ...unless is sudden adult death ...
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Yeah to be classed as that at just 56 is odd, it's sometimes listed for very elderly people who will have multiple conditions so no single condition can be neatly listed, but at that age for it to be so sudden (no known underlying illness or condition) it would pretty much always be heart, seizure or aneurysm. Even "sudden adult death" is more accurately sudden heart failure, just without a known cause or pre-existing heart condition (basically it's likely that there is a cause, it's just not medically understood yet).
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Unless she lied about her age, and is several decades older, something smells off...
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Could be just a sensitive way to say she died by suicide and there was no foul play
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…this is a good explanation of ‘natural causes’, which I think is also an indication of no one ‘incedent’/action etc leading up to and it bringing about her death…
It's important to point out upfront that "dying of natural causes" isn't a medical term, Sarah Reuss, MD, a pathologist at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, told Health. "It's more of a term used to communicate with people outside the medical field," Dr. Reuss said. "A lot of times, what we use to talk to each other [in the medical field] doesn't make sense to people outside the field, so we have a lot of terms to help people outside the medical field better understand us." Usually, dying from natural causes is interpreted as "nothing acute happened," Dr. Reuss explained. And by acute, Dr. Reuss means that nothing sudden or severe happened. A death certificate will state more than whether a death was natural or not. The certificate will indicate the immediate, or final, cause of death and any underlying causes or conditions that led to the death. While there isn't necessarily a set definition for what constitutes "natural causes," Erin McNeely, MD, an internal medicine physician at Spectrum Health in Michigan, told Health that physicians can generally agree on what it means. "'Natural causes' is a really wide, wide term that can be anything that wasn't an accident or affected by a force," Dr. McNeely said. "We don't pin a death from natural causes on one thing like a heart attack or stroke. Things just sort of stop." There is some nuance here, and technically, things like heart attack, cancer, and infections could be considered "natural" given that they happen to people without any outside force, Lewis Nelson, MD, chair of emergency medicine at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School, told Health. "It basically means that the death was not due to a 'non-natural' event, such as suicide or homicide," Dr. Nelson said. However, end-of-life researcher Christopher Kerr, MD, PhD, chief medical officer, and chief executive officer for Hospice & Palliative Care Buffalo, told Health that the term is usually used when someone dies of old age. "There's usually an absence of overriding disease," Dr. Kerr said. "There isn't a driving catabolic state—it's really dying in totality, and a general progression of loss of functional strength, energy, and appetite over time." Dr. McNeely compared dying of natural causes to a car shutting down after years of use. "The car rusts out, the engine stops, and things stop working over time," Dr. McNeely said. "Your body eventually just slows down and stops. Your pancreas, heart, and lungs stop working. It's essentially multi-organ failure." When "natural causes" shows up on a death certificate, it usually means that the person wasn't diagnosed with any one health condition, like heart failure, or didn't die in an accident, Dr. McNeely explained. Coroners typically come to this conclusion in the absence of an autopsy or known cause of death, Dr. Nelson said. But "when there are questions about the cause or manner of death, an autopsy along with other testing provides the needed information to help improve the determination of the cause and manner of death," Dr. Nelson said. Still, as Dr. McNeely pointed out, "we usually don't do autopsies on significantly older people." A Quick Review Based on the explanations provided by these medical experts, dying of natural causes isn't clear cut. It can mean that there wasn't any one health condition that caused death, but a combination of factors. As such, a natural cause of death is more likely to be listed as the cause of death for older adults whose organs have slowly worn down and come to a stop. https://www.health.com/mind-body/dyi...0death%2C%20Dr. |
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…I guess that my take is that the body and physical well-being and needs are consistently neglected to the point that it all shuts down…that she completely neglected herself and her needs to stay alive ….and possibly stopped taking any prescribed medication as well…
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Poor Sinead, she was always a troubled soul but I think losing her son broke her
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…I read a really superb article about her a little while ago, I can’t recall where it was from…her music gave her so much but she’d always struggled with the music industry…she performed for herself and for for personal/intimate audience's etc…but she didn’t want the fame or the money or any of it…I watched her sing You’re The One for Shane McGowan on his 60th birthday….and it was honestly one of the most emotional and wonderful performances I’ve seen…so very moving and it was so easy to see what music gave her when she wasn’t performing for ‘the industry’ but for a close friend on his birthday…
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[The Daily Star lead story covers a waxwork of Sinead O'Connor which has been removed by a museum after complaints from the late Irish singer's brother.] ![]() |
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…I saw the waxwork figure, it isn’t great at all…but I liked that the museum immediately acknowledged that and said that they needed to do better…/…they could do better and are determined to tribute her with the new model they’re having commissioned…that’s all they can do, and they are doing so well done them…
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I'm sure that the Artist wasn't intending to offend her Brother tbf.
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The authorities have removed it saying “we will endeavour to find a better one “
How embarrassing for the original sculptor. .. Career ending ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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