[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Precisely, there is so much information available to them about being environmentally responsible

Bull**** the people who left their filth behind at woodstock didn't care and were being selfish just the same as the people who left thei rmess behind at this festival. Imagine looking at past generations with such rose-tinted glasses that you'd claim they thought it was fine to not clean up after themselves, because there weren't any infomercials about recycling yet .

Young people will have fun, make a mess, and not care about the consequences. That has always been and will always be the case.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

surely you have missed the point, in 1969 there was little discussion on climate change and defo no protests, alot of these people leaving rubbish behind today whatever generation they are will be concerned about climate change, the sad fact is they want SOMEONE ELSE to do something about it and dont take any personal responsibility, some of them will be slow marching in London though and stopping people going about their business, but as long as they had a lovely time at a festival who cares

You have absolutely no idea if the people who left mess behind are the same people who campaign about climate change. The whole thing is borne of a complete delusion that everyone of a certain age has the same attitudes and beliefs. A narrative mostly pushed by online trends and surface appearances.

Here's the brief basic facts:

Just like in 1969, most "Gen Z's" (young people) don't give a stuff about climate change. They don't give a stuff about LGBTQ+. They are not "woke". Kids, teenagers and Uni students today are the same as we were when we were that age... and we were the same as our parents at the same age.

The idea that this messy scene is "ironic" because it was "Gen Z's" and "All Gen Z's complain about climate change!" is nothing more than a complete outrage-fantasy.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You have absolutely no idea if the people who left mess behind are the same people who campaign about climate change. The whole thing is borne of a complete delusion that everyone of a certain age has the same attitudes and beliefs. A narrative mostly pushed by online trends and surface appearances.

Here's the brief basic facts:

Just like in 1969, most "Gen Z's" (young people) don't give a stuff about climate change. They don't give a stuff about LGBTQ+. They are not "woke". Kids, teenagers and Uni students today are the same as we were when we were that age... and we were the same as our parents at the same age.


The idea that this messy scene is "ironic" because it was "Gen Z's" and "All Gen Z's complain about climate change!" is nothing more than a complete outrage-fantasy.

No I have no idea, no more than you have any idea that they were, but what I do know is that they will be aware of climate change environmental issues even if they live under rocks and can almost guarantee that some that attended will support slow marching etc, even if they dont do it themselves...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I have no idea, no more than you have any idea that they were, but what I do know is that they will be aware of climate change environmental issues even if they live under rocks and can almost guarantee that some that attended will support slow marching etc, even if they dont do it themselves...

The point is that we have no idea how many of them left mess behind (it wont be all of them) and we have no idea how many support climate activism (it also won't be all of them). Sure there's likely to be some hypocrites and some overlap but taking a stab at how much those two groups overlap is complete guesswork.

Online hysterics would have us all believe that today's youngsters are all Greta Thunbergs, marching around with LGBTQ flags. 3 years of having a daughter in high school has confirmed that that's maybe 10% of teenagers and the rest are not any different to how we were in high school in the slightest. Literally exactly the same thoughts, attitudes and dramas that I saw in school 25 years ago. Gen Z as a homogenous group is an internet myth.

Now there is the unfortunate fact that some politicians and other influential people seem to be buying into that myth... but that's another discussion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

surely you have missed the point, in 1969 there was little discussion on climate change and defo no protests, alot of these people leaving rubbish behind today whatever generation they are will be concerned about climate change, the sad fact is they want SOMEONE ELSE to do something about it and dont take any personal responsibility, some of them will be slow marching in London though and stopping people going about their business, but as long as they had a lovely time at a festival who cares

It wouldn't be so laughable if the whole thing hadn't been organised like a woke joke. More interested in policing cultural appropriation than protecting people and policing the event. Same people organised Leeds festival... Nuff said.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

It wouldn't be so laughable if the whole thing hadn't been organised like a woke joke. More interested in policing cultural appropriation than protecting people and policing the event. Same people organised Leeds festival... Nuff said.

Like what?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like what?

Like a woke joke.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like what?

Huh?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by oliver_w

like what?

they banned the sale of sombreros

[smudgie]

I am sure the ticket price will cover the clean up.
Hopefully all those tents and sleeping bags can be given to people sleeping on the streets.

[Livia]

Thankfully we can be sure of one thing: when the missiles started flying the stabbings started, the tents were set alight and huge bonfires built, no one was wearing a sombrero.

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I am sure the ticket price will cover the clean up.
Hopefully all those tents and sleeping bags can be given to people sleeping on the streets.

Yes it does pay all staff
at each event


Those tents are chucked
as they are no longer clean
all sorts of liquids are inside them

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it does pay all staff
at each event


Those tents are chucked
as they are no longer clean
all sorts of liquids are inside them

Give the tents to migrants and put our homeless in hotels. That would make more sense to me.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Give the tents to migrants

"We should have shanty towns for the brown people!" - TiBB, 2023.

[Liam-]

Littering is disgusting, they should be ashamed, as should be the oldie royalists who left massive amounts of litter and general mess on the days they gathered around the streets of London to see the grifters

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Littering is disgusting, they should be ashamed, as should be the oldie royalists who left massive amounts of litter and general mess on the days they gathered around the streets of London to see the grifters

Grifters? No... Harry and Meghan weren't invited.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Grifters? No... Harry and Meghan weren't invited.

Very True

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Grifters? No... Harry and Meghan weren't invited.

That's a good point I suppose. The active Royals don't have to be grifters, sopping sycophants are too keen to serve up whatever they want on a golden platter .

"Freeloaders" would be a better word maybe. Spongers. Leeches. Parasites?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's a good point I suppose. The active Royals don't have to be grifters, sopping sycophants are too keen to serve up whatever they want on a golden platter .

"Freeloaders" would be a better word maybe. Spongers. Leeches. Parasites?

All correct terms, one could even describe them as societal cancer if they wish

[jet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's a good point I suppose. The active Royals don't have to be grifters, sopping sycophants are too keen to serve up whatever they want on a golden platter .

"Freeloaders" would be a better word maybe. Spongers. Leeches. Parasites?

In terms of what the Royals bring to the economy, valuation consultancy group, Brand Finance, estimated that the monarchy’s helped boost the economy with a gross uplift of Ł1.76billion in the year 2021/22. Mainy through tourism and other methods.

We need more Parasites!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

In terms of what the Royals bring to the economy, valuation consultancy group, Brand Finance, estimated that the monarchy’s helped boost the economy with a gross uplift of Ł1.76billion in the year 2021/22. Mainy through tourism and other methods.

We need more Parasites!

Pff, chicken feed. As Boris would say. Less than 0.05% of Britain's GDP. Absolutely no evidence whatsoever that that tiny fraction of income is worth the psychological effect that a better-by-blood birthright monarchy has on a population.

[Livia]

Nice try.... back to ignoring your self-absorbed nonsens.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nice try.... back to ignoring your self-absorbed nonsens.

[Livia]

Even the woke Guardian was appalled...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...e-tent-burning

[Crimson Dynamo]

Greta wont like this