[user104658]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Funny how you don't ever have this opinion on Harry and Meghan when they preach lifestyle to everyone as they sit in their millionaire pad...and Harry tells us to leave our jobs if we are unhappy...

Obviously the Royals dont know what its like to walk in their shoes but they visit and try to understand the devastation and see it with their own eyes...unfortunately your own eyes are not allowing you to see that.

The fact that they go and see it with their own eyes and choose - yes, choose - to remain a part of the hyper-privileged and wealthy global elite and ride around in gold-adorned horse drawn carriages makes me dislike them all the more, not less. Imagine travelling the world and seeing real poverty, and then flying back to your literal palace and not entering deep existential crisis.

But they don't because they believe about themselves the same things that you believe about them;

That they're better, and deserve better, because they have superior blood.

It's gross as **** and the more I think about it the worse it gets.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The fact that they go and see it with their own eyes and choose - yes, choose - to remain a part of the hyper-privileged and wealthy global elite and ride around in gold-adorned horse drawn carriages makes me dislike them all the more, not less. Imagine travelling the world and seeing real poverty, and then flying back to your literal palace and not entering deep existential crisis.

But they don't because they believe about themselves the same things that you believe about them;

That they're better, and deserve better, because they have superior blood.

It's gross as **** and the more I think about it the worse it gets.

Says he who defends Harry and Meghan to the hilt...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Says he who defends Harry and Meghan to the hilt...

That isn't even true, I pointed out Harry's privilege quite openly with the whole "people should leave jobs they're not happy in" thing. I agreed with him that people shouldn't just stick with their lot, but that it's not as simple as he made out and most normal people need to seek an alternative that pays the same or better and can't simply walk away.

Harry and Meghan at least, though, are just what they are - plain old celebrities. Yes with all of the wealth and privilege that can come with that. THe same privilege that people like Oprah and The Rock have. Like I said they're all the same - just celebrities.

The difference is - AGAIN - that they're not pretending to be something better than that, and they don't have a legion of people insisting the same thing. The Royal Family are just celebrities no better than any of the others mentioned. No better or different at all. It's a fairytale, an illusion.

[Niamh.]

Oprah and The Rock donated $10million of their own money as well as trying to raise money, the Rock spent part of his childhood in Hawaii and shares that Polynesian culture/background with him being from Samoa. I think he's got a right to be involved in fund raising for this cause. And it's honestly laughable how people are justifying the Royals charity work but scoff at these two doing something

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oprah and The Rock donated $10million of their own money as well as trying to raise money, the Rock spent part of his childhood in Hawaii and shares that Polynesian culture/background with him being from Samoa. I think he's got a right to be involved in fund raising for this cause. And it's honestly laughable how people are justifying the Royals charity work but scoff at these two doing something

Well good for them..

SB decided to bring the Royals into the equation...no one is Justifying the Royals Charity work because its part of what they do...trying to make a comparison is simply ridiculous.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

trying to make a comparison is simply ridiculous.

Again it's only ridiculous to you because you lavish them with special status;clearly, it's not ridiculous to compare "celebrities doing charity" with "other celebrities doing charity in fancier clothes".

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well good for them..

SB decided to bring the Royals into the equation...no one is Justifying the Royals Charity work because its part of what they do...trying to make a comparison is simply ridiculous.

That's not what you said originally though, you said it left a bad taste in your mouth but when the Royals do it it's fine.

The comparison seems pretty valid to me

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's not what you said originally though, you said it left a bad taste in your mouth but when the Royals do it it's fine.

The comparison seems pretty valid to me

I was referring to their donation...nothing else.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oprah and The Rock donated $10million of their own money as well as trying to raise money, the Rock spent part of his childhood in Hawaii and shares that Polynesian culture/background with him being from Samoa. I think he's got a right to be involved in fund raising for this cause. And it's honestly laughable how people are justifying the Royals charity work but scoff at these two doing something

It’s like comparing chalk and cheese

The royals don’t get to spend their wealth

When William became the prince of wales, he became richer than his father the king

Royals work until they are in the ground as we saw with the late queen

Money gives you freedom to do and own what you want but with all the wealth the royals have it doesn’t give them that

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s like comparing chalk and cheese

The royals don’t get to spend their wealth

When William became the prince of wales, he became richer than his father the king

Royals work until they are in the ground as we saw with the late queen

Money gives you freedom to do and own what you want but with all the wealth the royals have it doesn’t give them that

The Royals have substantial individual personal wealth above and beyond the royal coffers. They don't spend it openly because it's bad PR. They absolutely have it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The Royals have substantial individual personal wealth above and beyond the royal coffers. They don't spend it openly because it's bad PR. They absolutely have it.

For all the wealth and privileges they have,there is not one person on here that would trade places with them.

They don’t even get to retire like normal people

[Crimson Dynamo]

No surprise its that hag Winfrey

absolute horror show

[Nicky91]

turning a Oprah and The Rock thread into a Harry & Meghan thread

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

turning a Oprah and The Rock thread into a Harry & Meghan thread

Tell me about it...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

turning a Oprah and The Rock thread into a Harry & Meghan thread

[user104658]

Just to clarify: I don't think mentioning H&M is in itself a strawman OR whataboutism in this thread either. I think their charity work is exactly the same as their charity work when they were active Royals, and the same as the current active Royals, and the same as Oprah, and the same as The People's Champion.

So there you go. That's my opinion on Harry and Meghan's charitable activities. It is also exactly the same as these other examples. No better, no worse, no different.

[bots]

I've strongly objected to all the charity fundraisers where people add their names to increase their own profile.

I object to all the day time adverts saying give x per month to help xxxxxx. I object to charity christmas cards where they give something like 1 penny to charity. I object to charities like oxfam that are still up and running when they have repeatedly raped and abused women overseas.

They all stink

[Glenn.]

[Swan]

Youtube video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Swan

Youtube video

That's mainly about Oprah to be fair go old Dwayne. He should still be cancelled though, but mainly because of Black Adam.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's mainly about Oprah to be fair go old Dwayne. He should still be cancelled though, but mainly because of Black Adam.

Leaving the parasitic royals out of it for a moment, can you not see why people are fed up with the likes of Oprah and The Rock asking us regularly filth for money to help others when they're in a much, much better position to do so?

[bots]

it's pretty damning of Oprah though

When someone has had that volume of cash for so long, it is going to affect them and their view of the world